38 Special +P Carry Ammo: Where Did All Of It Go?

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  1. Space Ghost

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    My .38 is a 637 airweight, and even though it's +p rated, I don't often carry it loaded with +p ammo. After shooting is a few times with +p, it's just too light to be comfy for that. I do often shoot my 640 with .38 +p when I can't find .357 in stock, but being stainless, it's a heavier gun. A SWC or SJWC is fine for me in my .38 most of the time. I keep extra speed loaders in the glove box, (including one with snake shot) just in case. Gold Dot makes a "short barrel" round for their .357 ammo. I found a couple boxes for my 640, (they were not cheep) and I'm betting they make a .38 version, but finding some these days would be like hitting the lottery.
     
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  2. Speedo66

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    I agree, I still carry what our official loads were, in 9mm it's the 147g HP, in.38Spl .it's the 158g+P HP. There may be better loads out there, but it's what I trained with and what I'm familiar with.

    I hope to never have to explain this to a jury, but as mentioned, one less variable.

    OP: thanks for sharing your test results!
     
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  3. pharmer

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    I use PriviPartizan 158 gr SWCHP when I carry a .38. Specs say it is not +P (Europe measures differently) and moves at about 900 fps (probably out of a 4"). Seems "enough" for me. Joe
     
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  4. Jonesy814

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    Back when Wal-Mart was getting out of the handgun ammo business I came across the last 6 boxes of the Federal HST plus P short barrel load at $8.00 per box. Noticed a few boxes of 130gr Golden Saber's for $7.50 per box on the shelf so I got all 3 boxes of those too. I shot a few of the HST's and was surprised at the mild recoil in my aluminum framed J frame
     
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  5. tws3b2

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    I have maybe 30 rounds back in the safe somewhere thats been there for 10 or so years. I don't like shooting +P. And I don't think there is that much difference in 38spl and + P to make it worth the price.
    But I'll ask the same question about 38spl jhp. I may find a box of fmj now and then in my area but have not seen any hp at all.
     
  6. Jerry M

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    As stated above, production of 9 mm seems to be a priority.

    I'm lucky enough to have scored some 110+P before before this latest shortage started. These rounds shoot well and point-of-aim for me. They are close enough the the 110+P+ Treasure load used in the 1970-1980's for me. I've seen those slugs from three different victims to known that they are pretty effective.

    In priority order:
    buy ammunition,
    buy something accurate in your firearms,
    buy a reasonable defense load,
    Practice.
     
  7. RevolvingGarbage

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    I’m about at the point with .38 Special ammo that I don’t much concern myself with what’s available commercially anymore. Either I can get primers and I’m able to make what I need to shoot, or I will stuff six of the same loads I’ve had around for years into whichever gun I’m carrying that day. Since revolvers don’t chew ammunition up as an autoloader will I have been able to hold on to 6-12 rounds each of Speer +P 158gr flat nosed TMJ, Hornady 110gr +P Critical Defense as well as 158gr XTP standard pressure (for my 6” M&P since it’s might just throw them fast enough to open up a little), and the old half jacket 125gr +P Remington hollow point. In theory I could end up holding on to these rounds for decades to come. I hope so, anyway.
     
  8. Big_Al

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    Usually some for sale on gunbroker
     
  9. edwardware

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    It didn't get made, and the 9mm did.
     
  10. tws3b2

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    I don't buy online. Just refuse to do it. It's always way over priced. Ammo is over priced at my local stores also but at least if I buy local it helps keep local store open. I could not care less about gbroker.
    The best decision I made was to buy a backup carry gun in 9mm. In my area today 9mm is more available than 38. But, I still prefer the 38 much more. Just me.
     
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  11. Big_Al

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    I've found the opposite, it's usually cheaper for me to order online. I can usually find some with free shipping if you order a case and I pay sales tax either way.




     
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  12. Racinfan83

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    I've seen quite a few +P .38's in stores in my area. Academy, Farm & Home Supply, Bass Pro, etc..
     
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    I respect your opinion - but IDK how you can say that "online is way overpriced". I was buying brass case 9mm online for $189 per thousand a couple years ago. I have recently bought .38 online for $5 a box cheaper than it is in any store around me. Got some .17WSM off gunbroker for less than you could EVER find it in a store. You just have to know how to search and look, and be patient. I agree about supporting your local gun stores, and I do when it comes to buying guns and some accessories, but many of the sellers on gunbroker ARE local gun stores somewhere. Spread the wealth...
     
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  14. Ethan Verity

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    That's part of what is also nice with the HST, you get +P velocity without the +P recoil... my guess is the deeply seated bullets have more distance to accelerate... it's like having a longer barrel than normal. Makes sense to make use of all that wasted cash volume, which is only there since 38 Spl was originally designed for black powder.
     
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  15. SteadyD

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    Many places allow you to get a product notification when stock returns. I recommend doing so and then purchase quickly once stock arrives.
     
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  16. Haywood

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    Since the NYPD reported successful stops on bad guys using Speer Gold Dot 135gr. 38+P, I bought 10 boxes back in the day. That’s what’s in all my Snubs.
     
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    Yes, very quickly.
     
  18. Racinfan83

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    I did this when .22 LR was "unobtainium". Set an alert on ammoseek that made a certain sound on my phone notifications. Had an account set up with a certain store chain, and was able to buy a lot of .22 at a good price for the time (5¢/rd). You gotta be quick but it does work...
     
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