Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by WisBorn, Jun 3, 2022.
An alternate might be a S&W 642 but it is a bit bigger than the Mustang. In the winter time with a pocket carry holster, I'd probably carry it. The heavy coats for winter provide an easier carry situation. My S&W 642 and 442 are machined for moon clips.
I have a Kimber Micro and Sig 238 and I am not confident in their reliability as compared to my Colt Mustang. Maybe someday if I shoot them enough. Since I got a flat wire recoil spring for the Sig 238, it has been reliable but not shot enough. The Kimber is doing well compared to the Mustang but I still have not fired it enough.
I have a Colt Pocket Lite from 2016 purchased with the idea of retiring the older Mustang but I have not put enough rounds through it yet to be comfortable with its reliability.
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Agree on all fronts. I’d rather have a bigger gun on the belt, but if I must pocket it’d have to be something the size of a LCP, oh heck it’d probably just be an LCP.
I tried the .38 lightweights a few times and they just don’t conceal in a pocket for me.
The past three months I have carried my LCPII everyday with the only maintenance just wiping it off when it got wet. Hadn't shot it as I was traveling.
Last week I went to the range pulled it out of my pocket from the Sticky holster it has been in and emptied the mag at seven yards.
No problems, shot three more magazines without an issue. I cleaned it when I got home and it was disgustingly dirty. Now I don't recommend that you carry your defense gun until it is filled with pocket lint. It is just nice to know that it will function without a flaw if you do...
Cargo shorts or overalls are easiest.
A couple of years ago, I upgraded to a Sig P365 in an Alabama pocket holster.
If you can carry a .38 or a .380, you can carry a 9mm.
TCP , LCP Max , 642 , Boomer 44spl , 85 NV
I tend to lean toward revolvers though
This is exactly what I pocket carry. In fact I did yesterday. I currently have it loaded with Hornaday .32mag but our local gun store has some Buffalo Bore heavy .32mag that I am picking up tomorrow.
I thought I had replied to this thread but didn't see it. For me this is an easy decision and that's the J frame. I do not shoot pocket autos well at all and have never trusted their reliability(though I am sure they can be very reliable). But putting 1-6 shots on target in a hurry is much, much easier for me with a J frame revolver.
Most of us old guys don't wear skinny jeans. Loose jeans, cargos, and khakis will support the small LCP size 380s. Also shorts in the above styles.
I have also slipped a LCPII in the front pocket of suit pants.
At the present, all of my J's are clean (last one used was one of my M&P 340's, for a LEOSA qual) ... but now one of my LCP's are dirty from a recent range session.
That recent range session was boring, as I was once again reminded of how well the revised version of the original DAO LCP can be used to run rapid shot strings at reasonable distances and still obtain very surprising accuracy for such an itty bitty pistol. Then again, all the years I've invested in running small DA/DAO J-frames probably hasn't hurt, as those DA/DAO skills can be applied to shooting the LCP's (in my case).
I was also reminded that manipulating the really small slide on the LCP requires some attention and dexterity ... since I encountered a round with either a hard or inert primer. FWIW, I was shooting a mix of some recycled carry loads comprised of Speer GDHP and Remington Golden Sabre. It was a Golden Sabre round that exhibited the "click", instead of a bang. Properly centered FP hit, and deep enough it ought to have ignited the primer ... but no joy. Since GS typically have case mouth and primer pocket sealant (and I don't use excessive CLP and oil lubricants, anyway), and the FP exhibits hard impact force (bench check afterward), I was inclined to suspect just one of those seldom hard/inert primers. Never had one happen with the GS .380's in the last several years, and they were a rare thing when I was shooting GS Duty ammo for so many years (pallets of cases, etc), but that doesn't mean one can't come along. Resolve it and drive on.
Anyway, the little LCP put nicely tight clusters of slow and fast shot string hits where I intended for them to appear on the anatomical qual targets available at the range that day.
I still prefer the heavier bullet weights of .38SPL (and occasionally the added oomph/velocity of .357MAG from the short barrel in my Magnum snubs), but the LCP .380ACP does lend itself to use when shorter/tighter front pockets are involved at times. Or, I wish to slip a slim LCP pocket-holstered into a jacket/sport coat breast pocket because I don't wish to use a belt scabbard to wear one of my larger weapons that day/evening. (Yes, I've often used the pants/jacket pocket carry when involved in range work, since I use an agency range and have carried/drawn from various pants and jacket pockets over the years, and in various weather conditions.)
I don't even own jeans. Or cargos or khakis for that matter. But I do live in a hot climate where lightweight clothing is the norm much of the year, and making an LCP not stick out in dress shorts or a fishing shirt pocket is much harder than the 25. True, for many people its not an issue, but for some it is.
Also with a suit, unless you are a detective and go full on shoulder holster, having a smaller gun for pocket carry does less to the silhouette than a bigger one.
As I said, the 25 works in anything. The 380 would work in perhaps 75% of my outfits, but for the remaining ones I end up needing a 25 anyway.
I know, I know…..but I won it for stupid cheap on a GB last minute auction. Now, 1200+ rds of 124gr RMR hollow points (stick within standard pressure and you won’t wind up on YouTube or worse) and I trust it as much as any other pistol I own. 6+1 of a solid cartridge beats the 6+1 of 380 I used to carry “when I’m not carrying a gun”
Rule #1of a gunfight: have a gun
And as I tell anyone interested, “I don’t care what you carry, as long as you train with, have confidence in, and can put effective hits on target under field conditions with it.”
Oh, I do love that Walther. Fondled one at the LGS yesterday. Not suitable for front pocket carry but a beauty nevertheless
Kahr PM9 is smaller than 38 snub, while offering quicker follow up shots and greater capacity.
PM9 is my 2nd option in weak hand front pocket to a Glock AIWB; both easily concealed by my untucked shirt in the FL heat and despite being in a "good area".
@Armored farmer for summer carry. Much easier to conceal vs. the J frames. But, I'm a big fan of the 38spl, so I'm torn.
Just think of it as a .38short.
It's a very versatile carry option.
I carry an empty chamber unless it's in a holster.
I was thinking short 9mm myself. Great little guns!
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