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.380 hollow points \\ kel tec p3at

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by moooose102, Apr 25, 2008.

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  1. moooose102

    moooose102 Member

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    what bullet / powder recipie (self defense) has worked best in your kel tec p3at? i noticed that there are 2 different mag tech .380 95 grain bullets, one has a larger hole than the other. has anyone had any experience with these? is there one powder that produces less flash than the others and still have good velocities?
     
  2. rcmodel

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    I have had very good luck with Hornady 90 grain XTP bullets over 3.3 grains Red-Dot or Green-Dot, or .3.8 grains Unique over 100 grain Berry for practice loads.

    The XTP loads seem to give equal or better expansion then Federal HydraShock factory loads.

    rcmodel
     
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    One of these days I'm gonna try some of the 115gr XTP loads from the Lyman book. It claims 950fps, thats about 240ft-lbs.

    Jon
     
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    Sounds a little overly ambitious for a P3AT!

    This is the poster-child for unsupported chambers!

    rcmodel
     
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    I've used 115gr. winchester h.p.'s with 3.6 gr. ww231 in my Bersa. ( I don't know about about your kel-tec, we can't have'em in the " P.R.C." ) Peoples Republic of California !
     
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    IMHO, You will be best served with FMJ .
     
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    The Brass Fetcher site has a lot of information on many different calibers. It just so happens there is a page with test shots from .380 Auto reloads including the recipes. You might find something to help you there.
     
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    I'd like to see a recipe using 102gr Golden Sabers with Unique or Titegroup.
     
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    The same load I posted in #2 for 100 grain Berry should work equally well with 102 Remingtons.

    It is well under a max load for jacketed bullets, but gives good performance.

    rcmodel
     
  10. moooose102

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    For targets, yes, for personal defense NO!
     
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    So you think that a .380 acp JHP will provide adequate penetration through a P3AT, You are a wishful thinker. JHP performance is unpredictable, it may or may not expand, which means it will give inadequate penetration or marginally adequate penetration. I choose the FMJ in this application as it has more penetration and is more predictable. Just my 2 cents :)
     
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    You're wasting your time. 99% of people don't give a darn how much a bullet penetrates.
     
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    at this point, it really does not matter, as i have 500 hollow points on the way! but, i still have to buy primers and powder. and, if a hollow point does not open, it should penetrate nearly as well as a fmj anyway, i think. but in any case, i PERSONALLY believe, that unless you are trying to shoot through something prior to hitting your target, you use hollow ponts on flesh (unless it is a bear or dangerous game, which if all i have is a 380 i am sol anyway). fmj's for targets, and shooting through something solid. i am not saying i am right, but it is what i believe. i didnt start this thread to argue about it, i wanted good info on loads for hp's. so lets try to get back on track. thank you very much.
     
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    Whatever you do don't use Cor-Bon DPX ammo in your .380 because even though it will expand the penetration will average only ~9 inches. That's not very good IMO.

    Federal Hydra-Shok 90gr .380 ammo will penetrate an average of 12+ inches and expand to an average of .475" when fired from a short barrel.

    The argument for using ball ammo in a .32 Auto and .380 Auto was a valid one years ago before all the advancements in bullet design. Now you can use a good quality JHP bullet in both the .32 Auto and .380 Auto and achiever more than satisfactory results.

    If you're looking for a good recipe for those 95gr JHP bullets give Power Pistol a try. A charge of 4.7gr will get you close to 1,000 fps from a P-3AT.
     
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    socaldan

    I stopped reading when I got to this:

     
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    Holy crap, that's about the size of my fist! :what:


    :neener:
     
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    :eek: Wow, that is some good expansion, no?
    Thanks for catching that error LiquidTension!! LOL
     
  19. socaldan

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    COMMANDER....good point !!!
    but the "jist" is sound.
     
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