at this point, it really does not matter, as i have 500 hollow points on the way! but, i still have to buy primers and powder. and, if a hollow point does not open, it should penetrate nearly as well as a fmj anyway, i think. but in any case, i PERSONALLY believe, that unless you are trying to shoot through something prior to hitting your target, you use hollow ponts on flesh (unless it is a bear or dangerous game, which if all i have is a 380 i am sol anyway). fmj's for targets, and shooting through something solid. i am not saying i am right, but it is what i believe. i didnt start this thread to argue about it, i wanted good info on loads for hp's. so lets try to get back on track. thank you very much.