Hello, this winter I am looking to improve my skill set as a handgun shooter. I am terrible at this and have always wanted to get better. I looked through my powder supply and didn't really find a powder well suited for the 40. I was using Blue Dot powder for my loads, and I was reading that it's better for the magnum cartridges. What would be your powder choice that shoots well and good for beginners?
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LiveLife
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I have used W231/HP-38 for lighter target loads and Universal/WSF/AutoComp for full power loads with good results.
gahunter12
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I agree. W231/HP38 are both great for 40s&w. I have loaded a lot of rounds with W231. Now days all I use for my 40s&w loads for practice, and Compitition is Winchester WST. I LOVE WST. Oh did I tell you I LOVE WST. It's has a little softer recoil, and a lot cleaner than W231. WST is a ball powder like W231, and meters well also. I load 3.9gr under 180gr Berry's RSFP for winter IDPA matches, and 4.1gr under 180gr Berry's RSFP for summer. WST is a little reverse temp sensitive ( gains pressure in cold temps, and reduces presure in hot temps), but not bad.
LiveLife
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I usually see WST stocked at LGS but don't see it on Cabelas' website.
If you order online, most vendors stock it like Powder Valley and Graf & Sons.
If you order online, most vendors stock it like Powder Valley and Graf & Sons.
Arkansas Paul
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The ol standbyes Unique and Bullseye are both great for .40. I prefer Bullseye personally, but be careful with it. It's extremely fast burning and .40 is a pretty high pressure round to begin with. Small errors can be magnified.
CZ57
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The .40 S&W cartridge has a naturally fast occurring pressure peak. For that reason I've always stayed away from fast burning powders. If you decide to duplicate factory velocity with 155 or 165 gr. bullets the faster burners won't safely allow you to do it. For 180s I wouldn't use anything faster than W231 or ZIP and I really wouldn't prefer either powder. I'd go AA#5 or slower.
bds recommended two very good choices with WSF and Autocomp. I'll recommend two more True Blue that is about the same burn rate as AA#5 but provides excellent accuracy. I've seen some reloading test where True Blue was the most accurate powder tested. The other choice would be Silhouette and it's in the same burn rate group with WSF and Autocomp. Before Ramshot started selling Silhouette it was introduced as Winchester Action Pistol, WAP, and is believed to be the powder Winchester used to develop the .40 S&W cartridge. If you ever decided to load self defense rounds Silhouette would be a great choice because it has a flash suppressant, one of the very few powders on the market that does.
bds recommended two very good choices with WSF and Autocomp. I'll recommend two more True Blue that is about the same burn rate as AA#5 but provides excellent accuracy. I've seen some reloading test where True Blue was the most accurate powder tested. The other choice would be Silhouette and it's in the same burn rate group with WSF and Autocomp. Before Ramshot started selling Silhouette it was introduced as Winchester Action Pistol, WAP, and is believed to be the powder Winchester used to develop the .40 S&W cartridge. If you ever decided to load self defense rounds Silhouette would be a great choice because it has a flash suppressant, one of the very few powders on the market that does.
srtolly
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Lot of great suggestions here. I'm also looking to try something different. I'm currently using 5gr of unique under a berrys 165gr fp. Been pretty accurate so far. Anyone use AA #2?
I do have some unique. I just couldn't find any data for it in my books. What is a load for the 180's? The only problem is that this powder is pretty old, it's made by hercules. I know powder stays good if you store it right for a long time. The recipies might have changed when hercules was sold to alliant.
MtnCreek
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That makes my wallet cry. Try the HAP's. They load and shoot the same as the XTP and cost less than even Win FMJ's. Great stuff for duplicating your carry load.
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According to Alliant, you should be good with your old Unique. The newer stuff they say burns a little cleaner, but other wise no change. I asked Alliant by email if I should be worried about differences between new and old 40 year stuff, and they said no. Sure enough it works the same IME. Just watch for acrid odd-smells....if it smells like smokeless powder it's good.
Unique works very well for me in both my .45's and my .40's....the powder is one of several good choices.
How many grains of unique? Alliant's guide online lists a 6.7 grain charge. But I don't think there is much reason to go near that, espically since these loads are just for practice. The reason I use 180 XTP's, is that it was a gift. So I'm gonna use them up, but I will still stick with 180's.
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I use light to moderate charges of Bullseye for most lighter bullets, but above 165 grains I switch to moderate charges of HS-6 or AutoComp.
With this cartridge the reloader has to be mindful of the high pressure that it naturally develops and that even a little bit too much of any powder can be dangerous.
I never load .40 cal to max, period.
With this cartridge the reloader has to be mindful of the high pressure that it naturally develops and that even a little bit too much of any powder can be dangerous.
I never load .40 cal to max, period.
You mention being a beginner, I would under those circumstances use a powder than takes ups lot of space. This makes the possibility of double charges much less likely. Two powders I use are the before mentioned HS-6--good moderate range powder for 180gr. Good power loads can be worked up on Longshot. In all cases review the manuals. Inf can be accessed from the manufacturers on line. I also use long shot in the 10mm for hunting loads(nuf said)
jr_watkins
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Alliant Power Pistol is my favorite for 40S&W. Plenty of volume so you don't overcharge by accident like you can with faster powders.
srtolly
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I'm using 5.3gn of unique under 180gn hard cast lead. Has been pretty good for me.
4895
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Power Pistol.
Buy a 4 lb. jug of it and don't look back!
Buy a 4 lb. jug of it and don't look back!
Blue Dot is better suited for the magnum cartridges as it is a slow burning powder.
You would be better suited to use a bit faster burning powder.
I would recommend,
W-231 ( HP-38 )
Power Pistol
Unique
Bullseye
Out of those options, I liked W-231 and Power Pistol for the .40.
You would be better suited to use a bit faster burning powder.
I would recommend,
W-231 ( HP-38 )
Power Pistol
Unique
Bullseye
Out of those options, I liked W-231 and Power Pistol for the .40.
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