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40 S&W Powders

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Grubby, Nov 8, 2012.

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  1. david bachelder

    david bachelder Member

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    Hodgdon Universal

    I use it for all of my .40 reloading. It burns clean and leaves little or no residue.

    I do use the midrange loads,

    5.0 grains Universal under a 175 grain cast RNFP
    or 5.0 grains under a 180 grain Berrys plated RNFP

    The .40's get a little snappy if I go over 5 grains.
     
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    Hodgdon Longshot is my exclusive powder for the .40 S&W; I use 7.5 grains to push 180 FMJ's as my SD emulation practice round. High velocities and reasonable pressures with this powder sold me on it.
     
  3. yippi

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    Silhouette and Berrys plated 155 gr. very accurate ouy of my XD.
     
  4. parkerdude

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    I've been shooting 6.0 grs. of IMR "PB" under a 150gr. jhp for years. My notes say something over 30,000 rounds since 2005.

    Consistant, clean burning.

    My Dillon 550B is set-up for this load right now!
     
  5. jjjitters

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    As Walkalong said any powder slower than win231/hp-38 will do a good job. I like some powders better because they soften up the sharpness of the .40's recoil, Silhouette is one really nice one,so are N320(a little fast though) or N340. For much of my cast lead AA#5 or WSF are good ones.
     
  6. Walkalong

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    I am fourtyless at the moment, but my son just bought one, and I have some Ranier 155s, so maybe this is the time to try Silhouette in .40.

    I agree with the recoil thing, and that sounds like another reason to try the Silhouette in .40. I really like Universal in .40, but I like to try new things as well.
     
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    Since January, I went through 4 pounds of Bullseye loading primarily for my M&P40. I'm very glad I cast my own bullets and reload, otherwise I would have probably written off this gun as simply "unshootable for me". I finally got used to the jump for good follow up shots and can finally put most of my shots rather than just my first shot through a 2" circle at 15 yards (most of the time). For a change, I've just picked up an 8 pound jug of Unique which should last me at least through the next year.

    Both powders are quite forgiving in the mid range loading area[\I][\B]. +/- 0.2g isn't going to blow anything up and the trick is to load it up above the minimum level to where it doesn't leave sooty cases, blowback gases into your face or spray unburned powder all over the place. Bullseye is a finer powder with a higher nitroglycerine content which will eat up the Hornady Plastic powder hopper if left in there for any amount of time. It is also denser than Unique which is dangerous if you have a tendency to double charge 38/357 cases. It is also more economical in that you need 10-20% less powder than Unique to get the same muzzle velocity.

    Unique is a good bulky powder which will easily let you know if you double charge a case. It is also a little lower pressure powder which will let you reach a higher max velocity than Bullseye, but not quite as high as Power Pistol. PP is great for max velocity, but you need way more powder per charge and you'll get a good muzzle blast and flash which may be annoying to you or others.

    Red Dot and Clays are excellent for building up pressure without high velocity (recoil). They are great powders for low recoil loads, but shooters get into pressure troubles when trying to reach high velocities with these powders. I use Clays for a clean burning load when I want my 40 to feel like a 9mm.

    Hodgdon Universal is similar in performance to Unique but more expensive and a bit cleaner burning and I have been told measures better than Unique although I have never had a problem with Unique.
     
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    Universal for the .40.
    Medium speed, good load density, good metering, clean clean clean.
     
  9. 918v

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    Four Grains of Titegroup is it.
     
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    Another vote for Silhouette. You want to load it on the hotter side since pressure makes a big difference in a clean burn with it. But it's still very very soft and meters extremely well. Out of an M&P 40 I load anywhere from 6.0-6.2 grains (6.2 is MAX so work up to it) at 1.135 to 1.160

    1.135 at 6 grains and 1.160 at 6.2 grains give almost the exact same velocity. I'll then reduce COAl to get the Velocity I need for USPSA shooting. 6grains though at any of those lengths will be super clean and soft with a still pretty safe margin of error.
     
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    AA#7 is softer than Silhouette at the same velocity level. The problem I'm having with S is it groups 1" to the right and the rear sight is cranked over to the left already. AA#7 prints dead on.
     
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    I have tried AA#5, 231, and universal clays, all did well but the clays was cleaner so that is what I use with 155 gr rainers plated.
     
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    I just worked up a load with AA#2 for 165gr berrys. 5.4gr was very accurate even with me shooting.
     
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    My favorite powders for the for 40 and the 9 are HS-6 and 231, with a nod towards HS-6, especially in the 40.
     
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    Interesting. I loaded up some 155 Gr Raniers I had laying around for my son's new .40. It is a S&W SD40VE and I am impressed with the feel and the trigger. The trigger is long (A little like DA on a revolver.), but smooth and not heavy at all like the similar S&W Sigma. I like it. We are going to shoot it tomorrow morning. I loaded some of the Raniers with Silhouette and some with Universal Clays. Neither are max loads.
     
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    Is there no love for Green Dot?
     
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    If you like the way w231/HP38 meters, then try WSF. It's slightly slower, with all the best characteristics of 231.
     
  18. plateshooter

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    I use 4.2gr of Red Dot with 175-180 grain lead bullets. Shot thousands through my Glock G20 w/40S&W conversion barrel, and my XDM. No leading, accurate, and clean burning for a lead bullet load.
     
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