My problem is deciding on how fast to push these bullets, or would a different bullet be better. I will let the groups that my gun makes the final decision, but I am in need of some advice. This is what I have came up with so far with my chroney. Xx.x grains Alliant 2400 CCI LP primer starline brass 240 Hornady XTP 1725 fps average Xx.xgrains Alliant 2400 CCI LP primer starline brass 240 Hornady XTP 1811 fps average 23 grains Lil gun CCI LP primer starline brass 240 Hornady XTP 1833 fps average 24 grains Lil gun CCI LP primer starline brass 240 Hornady XTP 1918 fps average I got my load data from Hornady, hodgon, and lee. The 22.5 grain load was in line with what the book called for. For Lil Gun I worked off what Hodgon listed for a 240 grain sierra bullet. After I bought the bullets, I read from hornady the it is recomended to use the heavier 265 grain bullet for deer. :banghead: note it has been brought to my attention that my 2400 loads are over max loads therefore they have been deleated., but today I checked with the hornady #8 and they do show that 22.8 grains is the max for this bullet in the TC single shot.