Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by NorthBorder, May 30, 2021.
I talked to Marlin in 1999. They used 0.431 plus or minus because that was the SAAMI spec. I argued that most 44 bullets were 0.429" but, I was talking to the bottom of the organization, and I don't think it would have mattered even if I was talking to the top of the organization. And that included their rifling twist of 1:38", too slow for anything but 240 grain and less. But that is SAAMI spec too. There are those who do push 265's, but I have not tried, and don't care.
I don't mean to hijack this thread but it could be good info if the OP does get a 44 Magnum rifle. What ended up working really well in my wife's Marlin was 300gr Hornady XTP's over 18.7gr IMR4227. At 75 yards I had a 5 shot group of 2.75". I need to put more of this combo through it because that group size had sort of a flyer and I need to see if I get consistent flyers. It's a soft load but will penetrate really well.
There was a shop that worked over a Ruger Deerslayer .44. A good 20 twist barrel with the gas block dovetailed instead of hard soldered. Accuracy was considerably improved, but it was only done a short time before the model was discontinued.
Pac Nor says their .44 barrels are .429".
No, true that. I had a beautiful Ruger Bisley stainless in .41, it was one of my Unobtanium List guns. It shot like absolute crap for me. Besides the very poor cylinder fitting, I'm sure it had mismatched cylinder throats, among other things. But, generally speaking, standard sized .41 bullets work for the most part.
I really don't need more than that...
Unless a 44 happens along.
Many years ago I bought my brother a Winchester Trapper in .45 Colt... 16" barrel. That has to be the handiest rifle I've ever used.... in fact, I sort of borrowed it back from him for a few years when I was camping and such in Colorado a lot, it's an ideal camp gun, and he used to carry it on the tractor when he was bush hogging his field.
I've considered bushwhacking my FG down to 16", but realized that's a dumb idea. Marlin had a very short run of 16" stainless .41's... the CCL if I remember correctly... but the prices for those is in the stratosphere, if you can find one.
I bought a Marlin in .44 mag, but if I had known the above, I wouldn't have. Does anyone know the reason for the different SAAMI spec on bore diameter? It seems like the stupidest d*** thing, but there must have been a good reason for it once upon a time.
For the OP, another vote with the above advice to skip the .44 and either go down to the .357 (or .41 or .327 if you want something uncommon) or go up to .444 or .45-70.
If you get the .454 you get a better twist rate. Not quite ideal at 1-24" but at least it's better and will feed ANY bullet you want it to eat.
Factory 45colt ammo is going to be about like 44spl.
If you load all your own ammo then it's not an issue.
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