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45/70 crimp

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by jack44, Oct 31, 2011.

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  1. jack44

    jack44 Member

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    The seating depth is good 2.532.5 it cycles in my rifle! but how the crimp look?.
     

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  2. Hay Creek

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    It's a bit out of focus to tell.
     
  3. Ridgerunner665

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    I agree its a bit out of focus...but from what I can see it needs a bit more crimp.

    What bullet is that?
     
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    If it is going in a Lever gun I would put a bit more.
     
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    I can't see the photo well enough to tell anything.

    But I can't see a cannulure on the bullet, which leads me to think it might be seated too deep, leaving no place to put a roll crimp in it.

    rc
     
  6. jack44

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    It's a Hornady 300gr hp - I'l try to get a better pic.
     
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    I have a crappy camara! hope this pic is better
     

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  8. Ridgerunner665

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    Your seating depth is perfect...but you need more crimp, roll em in there.
     
  9. jack44

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    Thanks! I'l keep trying with these dies tonight if I cant get more crimp I'l call redding tomorrow.
     
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    Seat and crimp in separate operations...works better for me that way.
     
  11. Ridgerunner665

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    The simplest solution is the Lee Factory crimp die...I use plain old RCBS dies. (but I'm shooting cast bullets)
     
  12. flashhole

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    If you are going for a roll crimp you could leave a tiny bit more crimp groove showing and yes, you need more crimp. I use a Redding taper crimp die when I load 45-70 for my Guide Gun. It works great and is simple to adjust to the crimp I want.
     
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    seating depth is correct but you need a little more crimp
     
  14. jack44

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    I think I will buy a separate crimp die - I have the seating depth set and locked in.

    Thanks alot for all the infomation.
     
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    what type action you shooting these in? single shots need no crimp
     
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    I use RCBS dies for 45-70, and I seat and crimp in separate steps. I agree, a bit more crimp.
     
  17. jack44

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    what type action you shooting these in? single shots need no crimp
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    An additional die is unnecessary if you want to avoid the cost. You can make 1 "dummy round" without a primer and powder so that you can reset the seating die any time you wish. You can make one up for every bullet you load and then you can duplicate your results in the future.
     
  19. jack44

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    Its no big deal Arch Angel- Midway was having a sale on the Lee crimp die.
     
  20. ArchAngelCD

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    I like the Lee FCD so I can't argue with you there...
     
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    Are you using Hornady brass that was formerly loaded with FTX bullets? If that's the case, the brass is shorter than standard and it can cause crimping issues with all dies.
     
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    starline bress Action just got the lee FD crimp is good
     
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    I don't put a crimp on my 45-70. I however load mine with blackpowder over a 405 gr hardcast bullet. I basically compress my powder with a veggie wad on top and then only need to push my bullet in till it touches. Accuracy is good out of my reproduction Sharps. I wonder if more crimp could help with my accuracy.
     
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    here the crimp with Lee die
     

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    As I see it that's about right.
     
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