45 acp ammo at LGS

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Stopped in at my LGS yesterday in the hope of finding some pistol primers. Of course no luck. However they did have 45 acp 185g FMJ for $29.99 for 50 rounds,limit 3 boxes.
Not a steal but not gouging either. They also had a pretty good stack of .223.
 
Considering most of the places around here are getting $50 a box of 50 for plain old, nothing special 38 Special and 9mm, $30 a box of 50 45 is a deal, and actually, a steal.:thumbup:

Last I saw on Ammo Seek, 45acp was going for just under $1k a case. 9mm was around $700 a case.
 
Consider CTD is at $100 per 50 I think $30 is fair in the current market.
 
His next batch will cost him $40 wholesale resulting in a $48 retail.

...and you know that how? I would assume any stock on shelves right now in .45ACP is current and only been there a week or so. That tells me the price has already increased since last fall and any other legitimate wholesale price increase in the near future will not be 62%. But who knows.....
 
Even if he paid 1990's wholesale prices for it, if hes got it and you dont, whats it worth to you?

When I buy, trade, or sell a gun, I use Gun Broker to get a rough idea as to what they are going for. Gives me a pretty good idea as to what they are "actually" worth on the going market.

Go do the same for ammo and components. "Everything" is nuts right now, and thats not the makers, distributors, or end sellers fault. :thumbup:

When I see a box of a thousand primers going for $300 from a penny start, no one is gouging anyone. The Chicken Little retards are in full blown action and driving the panic right now. If you havent learned by now (this is what now, the third panic or so in as many decades?) to buy cheap and stack deep when things are calm and boring, doom on you I guess.
 
...and you know that how? I would assume any stock on shelves right now in .45ACP is current and only been there a week or so. That tells me the price has already increased since last fall and any other legitimate wholesale price increase in the near future will not be 62%. But who knows.....

I know cause I participate in buying ammo from wholesalers at the store I work in p/t
 
I wasn’t trying to touch off an argument with my post. I was just happy to find ammo at a decent price considering the current market. Thought it might be a encouraging sign.
 
...His next batch will cost him $40 wholesale resulting in a $48 retail.
Then he's either bad at math, bad at business and likely both.
If he's currently retailing at $30 a box......and knows his cost per box on the next order is $40..............he's an idiot as well. Not only is not not earning a profit, he's losing money on every sale.

The math:
If the OP's dealer is retailing at $30 box and with a 20% "markup"..........his wholesale price per box was $24 per box. Lets say he sold 100 boxes.
Gross sales $3,000 with a gross profit of $600.
But the next order his wholesale price is now $40 box. To buy another 100 boxes its $4,000.........see the problem? o_O

A business doesn't base "markup" on what he paid on his last order, but what the wholesale cost will be on the NEXT order.
 
Math never makes sense when you're mad. Hell, it doesnt make a lot sense to a lot of people when they arent. :p
 
The shop I bought the ammo from is a well established multi generation business. Pretty sure they know how to price their products.
 
Wonder how much difference in price the wholesale is, between small stores (local or online), vs the big chains?

In the past couple weeks, I've heard increasingly frequent tales of Academy, Bass Pro and Cabela's having ammo in stock. There's been the tips re: the truck came in, people go, and most recently it seems like there's a little left after the flurry of buying. So then if the next truck comes (which it has been), that's pushing their in-stock totals up higher. A couple more weeks at that pattern, and we could see somewhat normal availability.
The prices I'm hearing is $14.99 a box for Federal 9mm brass. Pre-panic at those stores, that brand was probably at least $12, maybe a bit more... Federal has never been the cheapest thing on the shelf.

I compare that to the online prices running at least double that, if not more; and wonder what the deal is? Are the smaller buyers getting charged a lot more, or are they trying to milk this run as much as they can? One thought I'm having is that places like sgammo get 'a fair amount', but nowhere near what Bass Pro gets as a company... then they have stock and are sitting on it, and have to mark down to move it. And that is why it's USUALLY cheaper than the big boxes. But right now, nothing is really sitting in stock, and our online-shopping habits have made it a complete warzone to order anything. It might SEEM similar to Amazon shopping, but sgammo etc doesn't buy the bulk quantities Amazon has.
 
The range/store I shoot at on Wednesday evening had a bulletin board just inside the front door with a list of ammunition NOT in stock. A long list. Including .45 ACP.
They had 9mm and .223 for sale to shoot on their rental range or with a gun purchase, but nothing to go.
 
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