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  1. TexasPatriot.308

    TexasPatriot.308 Member

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    besides Buffalo Bore, you got Grizzly and CorBon make some mighty juiced up loads, if you don't reload, these are the way to go but like the manufacturers say, use them in recommended firearms or in a revolver, you just might blow they cylinder out all over your hand and face. six shots thru my .45 Colt and you can feel the tingle in your hand.
     
  2. Mad Machinist

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    Ever consider an AR15 conversion in 45 ACP....deadly with 45 super ammo.....or a .460 Rowland......?
    Much faster reloads than a lever gun.....and due to the recoil energy being absorbed by the unlocking and cycling of the bolt.....faster follow up shots. Dedicated lowers are also available for using Grease Gun magazines and one for Glock mags as well.
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    and installed on a standard lower......
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    Bigbore, I've got that rig to complement my Ruger Alaskan in 454.

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    Runs like a sewing machine on 45 colt or 454.
     
  5. savanahsdad

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    Got one of these too, light , easy to pack , and will handle any 45lc you put in it
     
  6. BigBore45

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    That is a nice gun. the catch that got me is my favoritism of a rear peep that is not available for the 92' action. Otherwise i would have one in my safe right now.
     
  7. RPRNY

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    With the greatest if reluctance, I recently purchased a Rossi 92 in 45 Colt for SASS and after working it over based on Steve's Guns' DVD, on a value for money basis, I believe it is an excellent purchase. My past experiences with Rossi/Braztech have nit been good. The R92 will handle Ruger only 45 loads.

    I also built this little gem of an H&R 45 LC reamed to 454. It is excellent, and will handle loads you would shy from putting into your Ruger. The 454 with 250 gr FTX, aka mini Bushmaster, will deliver 2250 fps and is reliable to 200 yards.

    Either is an excellent choice.

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  8. savanahsdad

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    Nice H&R . I was going to ream my Classic Carbine to 454 then found out they didn't make them for very long and a lot of owners have reamed there's to 454, so I decided to leave it factory , however it has a long throat like most of them , so I'm trimming 454's down .050 witch is .050 longer than a 45lc, with 22gr of 2400 I'm getting 1675fps with a Speer 300gr FP. if the OP handloaded that would put the smack down on a hog at 150 yards , but ammo wouldn't work in his Ruger
     
  9. GooseGestapo

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    fwiw; I have a 24"bbl Winchester M94 in .45lc.
    I've really enjoyed it for the 12yrs I've owned it. I don't shoot it that much but when I do, it's a "hoot".

    I've loaded it as "hot" as 20gr of #2400 with a 300gr RFN-GC (Lee; casts to ~315gr) for around 1,600fps. The 250gr Hornady XTP's over 2400 run about 1700fps and are ~1.5moa at 100yds. The rifle wears a Williams 5D reciever sight. My older brother called it the .45/70 "short"...

    However, I don't run it that hard anymore. Several reasons...
    1. I have a Marlin M1895 guide gun. If I want ".458 short-mag's", I'll run it... But with it, I still just use the RCBS 300gr FNGC (casts 322gr) over 30.0gr of #2400 for 1,650fps. Does anything you "need" a .45/70 to do in the lower 48.
    2. I can't tell the difference between a 110lb deer shot with the 300gr FNGC at ~1,650fps and a 250gr RFN at ~1,100fps. Either blow a 1/2" hole through the deer and the deer dies quickly. The higher velocity shoots a bit flatter, but to ~125yds, it's not enough to justify the extra powder, blast, and recoil.
    3. I can shoot the "regular" loads without hearing protection and not "ring" my ears. I'm already retired on disability due to 20+ years of Mercury "Black Max" outboard motors deafening me after 10-15hrs shifts on the water working boating enforcement for 20+years. They sound like a "bass .22lr". Often shooting an armadillo (my most common "target"), the impact of the bullet is louder than the gun blast!!!

    I do load a bit warmer than "standard" .45lc loads for one, and only one reason. Below 8.0gr of Universal or Unique, or 7.8gr of #231, I get "blow-by" or "blow-back" through the action due to brass not completely obturating and maintaining seal till the bullet exits the bore. At 8.2gr of Universal or #231 I get much cleaner brass and no "whiff" of powder blast to the face, and gun action stays much cleaner.

    MagTech brass is "thinner" or "softer" than Win. or R-P, and Hornady and Starline are somewhat thicker/harder and takes even more powder to prevent blow-by.
    I use the MagTech brass in the Winchester, and "others" in the Ruger BlackHawk Flat-top.

    No more "+P" .45colt for me... Even the .44mag (329PD) gets "mid-range" loads. 1,000fps with a 240gr-270gr SWC will do ANYTHING I need a "magnum" handgun to do.

    My current "darling" handgun is a S&W "Shield" in .40s&w. With a 180gr TFN at ~800fps, it will still shoot through an average deer here and is remarkably accurate... I could have been "happy" with this my entire career in L/E if it had existed then...
     
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    Big bore .45

    Peep sight for Rossi 92.
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    I been doing lots of browsing, don't hear a whole lot good about the newer Rossis or Marlins for that matter. wish Ruger made one in .45 colt, I own .357s, .44 mags and .45 colts so just a carbine to compliment is what I am really looking for, sure wish I could find one of those old Ruger Deerfields. the AR platform sounds good cause of the semi auto which could come in handy in the thick brush. the lever actions cause I like them, but in most of Texas except in the eastern part 30-30s are not used that much. only time I would need such a carbine would be walking in thick brush....decisions, decisions
     
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    Don't listen to the haters. I was very worried about fit and finish when I ordered mine. All for naught - very nice workmanship.
     
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    I thought someone posted a link to this rifle already... if so, here it is again.

    Winchester offers a newly-manufactured (pretty sure it's Miroku) 1892 in .44 mag, .357 or .45 Colt... they're twice as much as a Rossi, but then again, Miroku recently made the model as a Browning 92, one of the finest production leverguns made.

    http://www.winchesterguns.com/products/catalog/detail.asp?family=022c&mid=534162
     
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    I own 2 rossi 92's one in 44mag the other in 45 colt both in 16in barrels and they are great!! I love both of mine and are lookin at the same in 357mag now, so i'll have 3 soon :)
     
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    Now you've got me thinking that I should get another Rossi M92 in .357 to go with my Ruger Blackhawk. Would make for a great revolver/rifle combo.
     
  16. Idaho Slim

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    OP, I too wanted a .45 lc Lever gun to match my saddle gun (.45lc Vaquero, and while I am a huge Winchester fan, I finally chose a Henry for the reputation. Once sighted in, (within 10 rds.) I yearned to see how it performed on game, and the first shot out of it took my 2014 management whitetail. She did a flip when it hit her, of course it was a sure thing (in the head) but the Henry delivered, open sights, and it was just a 255 grn cowboy load @ 30 yds. I am a real fan of this lever gun.

    Regards, SLIM.
     

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    Hard to beat an at on hogs and cabelas had a great deal last I heard. 500 plus tax.
     
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    Be patient Henry replied to an email from me. The 45 long colt will be released in an all blued version of the bigboy. I like the gun just not the brass receiver etc:).
     
  19. Badlander

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    The big problem with the henry for me is it will not feed bullets over 265gr. That is per Henry.


    Thank you for your interest in Henry. The rate of twist is 1:38. This does not matter for the larger rounds as our Big boy rifles are not made to be able to safely or properly feed rounds with bullet weights over 270 gr. Our Big Boy's can handle all the +P pressure out there even Big Buffalo Bore ammunition as long as the rounds are not to big (over 270 gr.) to feed through the action."

    Simply put, if you need a heavier bullet you'll either need a different rifle or load the bullet too far into the case, meaning reduced or faster powder and pressure testing. I suggest that you take option ONE and leave the second option to people who have all the stuff needed to make sure that they don't blow-up the gun...
     
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    I have a Rossi R92 in 454 Casull that I mainly shoot in 45 Colt that I am VERY happy with. Real pretty in stainless!
     
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    ^^^^^^

    What he said. :D
     
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