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45 Conundrum

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by LT 102, Mar 15, 2007.

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  1. LT 102

    LT 102 Member

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    I am looking for a new 45 of the non 1911 type. To be used for household pest control and occaisional CCW. I want it to have a light rail. I have been looknig at a few and want opinions on them. Glock 21, Taurus 24/7 and Ruger p345. I know that I can get either the Ruger or Taurus new at my local store for less than $400 and still have cash left for ammo. But am wondering if the Glock is worth an extra $150 or so
     
  2. Walkalong

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    No 1911? Well then, The Taurus 24/7 for sure.

    Well, maybe the XD. :)

    Depends on what fits you. The XD is a fare bit bigger.

    Welcome to THR.
     
  3. LittleLebowski

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    Glock 21 Slim line.
     
  4. doncameron

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    why not a CZ?
    Or a Witness?
    I have a witness in .45, cost was $325 OTD
    10+1.
     
  5. Geronimo45

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    I've heard of the .45 GAP, ACP, Long Colt, and .45-70. Never heard of a .45 Conundrum.

    Seriously, though:
    "wondering if the Glock is worth an extra $150 or so"
    Glocks - whatever you may think of their looks, are pretty darned tough guns - so are the Rugers. Taurus' have a good reputation, too. Handle each one, see which kind fits you better. Some folks find one gun or the other too thick to grip. Sometimes the angle of the Glock isn't conducive to good shooting in some people.
     
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    Sig P220, a little expensive, but probably the best combat sa/da or dao 45 made. If price was an issue I would try to find a used one, but used sigs are hard to find and sell quickly. Just about anyone that fires one will end up buying one.
     
  7. 10-Ring

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    My first choice & recommendation would be for the USPc 45
     
  8. MikePGS

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    I to say to look for a used Sig P220.
     
  9. LT.Diver

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    SIG p-220

    I emphatically agree with the SIG p220. The SIG's are rugged as hell, extremely accurate and they have one of the most comfortable grip frames. Personally, I wouldn't take a Taurus for free.
     
  10. waynedm

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    On budget go for Ruger. If you can handle the handle size of the Glock or like it better for some reason go for that. If you really want to blow a wad go for a USP. Leave the Taurus in the gun shop. Horrible.
     
  11. Colt46

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    I've got a Ruger P345

    Only one complaint. Dry firing it without a magazine may damage the firing pin. Not all that desirable of an attribute and one you ought to be aware of.
    If you can live with this it's a fine weapon.
     
  12. waynedm

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    The magazine being in it doesn't have an effect on the firing pin. Also, you can dry fire the hell out of Rugers all day and you won't hurt their firing pins.
     
  13. prolanman

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    You can get a Sig P220 Carry CPO for around $550.
     
  14. GunNut

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    Slightly used 3rd Gen Glock 21 and a you will still have money left over for ammo.

    Last week I picked up a 6 month old used Glock 21 w/less than 200 rounds through it for $420 FTF, there are lots of great deals out there.


    Steve
     
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    glock or sig... i would say beretta but i dont like the cougars
     
  16. camper

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    You should also check out the Springfield XD 45ACP pistols.
     
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    Ruger P345 - it hits what you aim at, it eats whatever you feed it, and it is sleek and smooth for easy carry!!!!
     
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    Get a CZ 97!~Same accuracy, reliability, build quality and some would say better ergonomics than a P220 or USP for half the price. Ruger, Taurus, Glock and Springfield are fourth through seventh place contenders in non-SA .45's in my opinion (sure lots of folks like all 4, (many even more so than CZ, HK or Sig) but take a look and decide for yourself.)
     
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    CPO Sig P220, you can not go wrong.
     
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    Lots of good suggestions. I too would look for a used SIG P220 or P245. I picked up a used (not CPO) SIG P245 last year for $450. Hardly any wear on it and shoots great. Like already mentioned though they can be hard to find. Mine had been on display 1.5 hrs when I saw it and bought it.

    If a used SIG is not available then I'd consider the CZ or Glock. Ruger and Springfield XD do not have any spare parts available. You must send it to the factory for any repairs. The CZ and Glock have lots of spare parts on the open market (at least the CZ 75, not sure about the 97). If this is one of your main fighting irons, then you don't want to have to sendit away for a couple of weeks and pay $80 in overnight shipping.
     
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    +1 Ruger p345

    It has lots of safety features (mag disconnect safety, loaded chamber indicator, 8 lb. stacking DA trigger pull, key lock built into manual safety, and the way the manual safety cams the firing pin away from the striker and locks it in position). I feel these features make it safer for use in a home where children may be present, which is the main reason I prefer it over Glock. You can get one in a decocker-only model if you don't like having a manual safety, and all the other features are easily ignored, except of course for the DA trigger pull.

    I'm not fond of grip safeties, which is why I didn't even consider an XD.

    As for the Sigs, I couldn't tell you if they're any better or worse than the Ruger P345, I've got no experience with them.

    It is true that you shouldn't dry fire a p345 without a magazine inserted or the magazine disconnect safety removed. It could cause a failure to fire.
     
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    ^^ I'm editing for some obvious P345 damage control ^^
    I can't believe you brought the mag-disconnect up as a positive feature.

    You can remove the mag-disconnect in minutes. All you need is a dowl, a hammer, and a hex wrench.
    You should remove the mag-disconnect, because it can do more harm than good for a CCW piece.
    No lawyer is going to miss that tiny crumb of steel.

    Said crumb is the piece that could potentially break with extended empty-chamber dry-firing.
    When it is gone, so is the tiny possibility that your gun turns into a brick.



    I always give support to the P345 as a CCW platform.
    If you are a big-bore guy, but not a cock'n'lock guy, then the P345 has a lot to offer.

    It also helps to think that single stack is sexy.
     
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    does that mean it'll double as conceal carry & home defense or conceal carry and something to carry with you out in your backfield - to also be used for groundhogs & such??

    the matter of home defense can be best served with a cheap shotgun (imo).

    i'll vote for the 3rd generation Glock21. you can get them used for very good price and they'll still last you a lifetime.
     
  24. waynedm

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    Only guns these belong on were designed by JMB. The designers at Springfield must have been high when they decided to put them on the XD. Not only did they put it on they made it so you can't rack the slide without it being depressed. Inane.

    I've never seen a P345 with a mag safety. If you can pull the trigger and it drops the hammer with the mag not in it won't have an effect on if the firing pin moves or not. I can't imagine Ruger would be dumb enough to make the mag safety only disable the firing pin block. If they did, that would for sure wreck the firing pin block and pin.
     
  25. fattsgalore

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    As for the Taurus no comment.(I'm a Taurus guy, but don't trust there poly offerings) The Ruger felt great when compared to my Glock23. The P345 was so much more manageable when shoot side by side with my 40.
    I'm personally leaning towards a G30 so the 21 would be just fine. What about the XD?

    Oh I almost forgot. Look into the Ruger P90 which is the 345's grand daddy. It's literally as solid as they come.
     
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