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.45 Grease Gun

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by higene, Mar 9, 2009.

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  1. higene

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    45 zillion new .45s this year. How come nobody makes a semi auto Grease gun?

    Higene

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  2. MikeJackmin

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    You'd need a 16 inch barrel and a closed bolt; the telescoping stock would be an issue in many states as well.

    It would help fill the gap left by the Marlin camp carbine...
     
  3. MikeJackmin

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    You'd need a 16 inch barrel and a closed bolt; the telescoping stock would be an issue in many states as well.

    It would help fill the gap left by the Marlin camp carbine...
     
  4. Rockwell1

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    The M-3 "grease gun" was notoriously inaccurate. If I remember from my Army days (yes, it really was that long ago) they didn't even have sights.

    The original spray and pray. :D

    My first unit issued M-3s to all the 113 drivers. Qualification was on the 25 meter target only
     
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    Valkyrie Arms LLC made 16" barreled fixed stock and collapsible wire stock carbines, and short barreled pistol versions in semi-auto.
    I saw an example at a local shop last summer for around $750. I didn't have the cash to buy it then, I regret that.
    Here is a photo of one that was on gunbroker......
    [​IMG]
     
  7. mattk

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    I think the Grease Gun is super cool in that rugged, cheaply made kind of way.

    My dad was issued one as a tanker in the 60's before he went to OCS and ened up in Vietnam with an m2 carbine and a Luger.
     
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    jackstinson

    I've seen a couple of Valkyrie Arms version of the M3 Grease Gun. One appeared to have some sort of black enamel finish with stainless pins and tabs on the receiver; in other words it didn't look much like a G.I. issue sub gun. The other one I examined was more like the one in your pic; it was parkerized but the barrel didn't have a shroud on it. The barrel was skinny the entire length from the receiver. I think the price was around $750 as well.
     
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    "The 16-inch barrel I understand, but is there some legal reason why it needs a closed bolt? "
    The powers that be think it is to easy to convert an opened bolt to fire full auto than a closed bolt is.:confused:
     
  11. The Wiry Irishman

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    A friend of mine bought one of those. Wouldn't feed anything, and there was no cocking handle - you had to stick your finger in the bolt to charge it. He sent it off to a gunsmith recently (can't remember the name) who got it running reliably and put a cocking handle on. Apparantly that was difficult, because the bolt wasn't case hardened, but hardened all the way through. He says it runs great now.
     
  12. LightningCrash

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    Is there a particular reason you want a .45ACP grease gun, other than the historical significance?

    (I have wanted a Sten ever since I saw the MkII blueprints on the internet)
     
  13. moxie

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    The M3 does have sights.

    The cocking lever was removed from the M3 and replaced with the finger hole for simplicity and reliability, and renamed the M3A1.
     
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    They are. Open bolt semis usually have extra parts to make them semi auto, however closed bolt semi autos usually have to have a few parts added.
     
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    Once (many moons ago) I traded a South Vietnamese village guard two cartons of Kools for an M-3 and 2 mags.

    It took me about two weeks to realize that I had been screwed royally on that deal.

    Mine was inaccurate and failed to fire a whole mag without malfunction. There is no balance point and awkward to carry with one hands. I could not imagine a worse weapon to carry in the bush. As I recall, the cost of manufacture was less than $10. You always get what you pay for.

    All was not lost however, I traded it to an AF warrant officer for a pallet of Black Label beer.
     
  16. TIMC

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    Since I have been on the hunt for a good accurate and reliable pistol caliber carbine, I opted for one of the .45 caliber Uzi's The gun is very accurate, compact and reliable. the big down side is you have to either buy $150 a piece IMI mags when you can find them or do the Grease gun mag conversion for $350 + $40 a mag. Since I wanted to stay all IMI I now own $1000 worth of IMI mags which is almost as much as I spent on the gun!
     
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    You could always get an HK USC and buy a GG lower,new production GG mags are running about $25...
     

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    I had one of the old Thompsons once a long time ago. It was not very reliable or accurate. Definitely a conversation piece though ;)
     
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    Well, the other question is why not a reproduction Reising? Ok, they have a terrible rep from combat, but combat is a harsh environment. Johnson rifle had similar problems, but has been replicated. Reising was just fine in LE use, so "modern civilian" would seem similar. Nice wood stock to as to not twist the chones of the knotted-drawers set, too <g>.

    Valkyrie makes a nice deLisle, too. And, like too much of their stuff, it's all better with NFA applications <sigh>.
     
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    The gun I really want is an Mp40. They were preferred by alot of US troops over the US sub machine guns. It looks similar but not as clunky ;)
     
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    Someone is currently making a semi-auto Mp-40.
    Closed bolt and a non-extendable stock fixed in the closed position.
     
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    My Father served before and during WWII, and had alot of experience with both the thompson and the grease gun. He preferred the grease gun.
     
  24. Gatofeo

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    Interestingly, the U.S. military used the M3 "grease gun" right up to the late 1980s.
    It was still being issued to tankers then.
    I know, because I recall an article about 1987 in the Tacoma News Tribune (Washington state) about the tankers at Fort Lewis finally turning in their M3s for a short-barreled, collapsible-stock M16.
    My father, who had attended tank school at Fort Knox, Ky. in World War II, brought the article to my attention. Like me, he was amazed it was still an issue item.
    He preferred the Thompson, though the M3 was small enough to store well in a tank.
    Actually, he was among the first G.I.s to be issued the M1 carbine, in 1942 as I recall. The M3 was taken away from the tankers at Fort Knox and replaced with the M1 carbine.
    The Army wanted to see if the M1 was any better.
    Shortly after, Dad completed tanker school and his M1 carbine followed him to engineering school.
    It was serial number 3100, he told me. Made by Winchester, he thought.
    That little carbine became his issue gun. Followed him from the States by ship to Glascow, Scotland. By truck and train to England. From England to Normandy, France about 10 days after D-Day. Up through France, Belgium and Germany.
    Germany surrendered.
    Back down to Marseille, France. Out the Straits of Gibraltar and across the Atlantic. Through the Panama Canal and on to the Philippines to prepare for the invasion of Japan.
    Bomb got dropped.
    Finally, turned in that M1 at San Francisco after the war ended.
    I can't spot an M1 carbine at a gun show or shop without going over and checking the serial number. I know ... I know ... but hey, lightning strikes!
    Dad died in 1998 at the age of 83.
    If I ever found Serial No. 3100 I'd probably drop to the ground and bawl my fool head off!
    Aw crud ... I'm getting teary-eyed now, writing this ... I gotta go! :D
     
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    Why bother!!

    Absolutely the WORST ergonomics of any firearm I have ever held in my nearly 70 years.....accuracy is problematic due to the cycling of that heavy bolt, the sights are a joke, consisting of a bent "L" for a rear and a lousy stamped front, in truth one can actually fire a semi auto design different than the GG faster than that thing can be cycled full auto!!..............

    AIR, cyclic is a paltry 450........Further, those single position magazines'l wear out your fingers trying to top 'em off.

    Truly fits the description of 'boat anchor'.

    ANY High Point is a better piece!
     
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