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.45 o SKS for @ $400?

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  1. bk42261

    bk42261 Member

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    I will soon be able to buy one or the other, mostly for home defense, and a lot of plinking. I lean toward the .45 for HD, but have always wanted an SKS. Can I reasonably expect to get a reliable .45 in this price range, or should I just buy an SKS?







    sorry, .45 handgun 1911 or XD
     
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  2. o Unforgiven o

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    .45 what?
     
  3. GCMkc

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    I know there are .45's in the $400-500 range but have not had any experience with these. Another thing to consider is that an SKS for home defense isn't all that practical. 7.62x39 bullets will be going through a lot of walls where as .45's are much much slower moving bullets and probably won't have as many penetration issues. Look on gunbroker or budsgunshop.com for some low priced .45's. Hope this helps.
     
  4. jojo200517

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    Eh if I wanted a 7.62x39 caliber weapon for 400 bucks and close HD range and plinking i'd get a cheaper AK instead of an SKS. Just check to make sure sights and gas block are straight, most of the WASR's have improved recently and can be had for right at 400 bucks.

    Lots of positive reviews of the RIA .45's in the lower end of the price range like this. For around 500-550 ya can get a PARA GI expert. My only complaint was cheapish factory mags and a couple chip mccormicks worked flawless in it.

    (eh crap i assumed by .45 you ment 1911.)

    Of course if you want an SKS I suppose ya could get one of them too, I think its kinda sad how the prices have been drove up like madness on them tho.
     
  5. W L Johnson

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    I remember a time when $400 could buy you 8 SKS's.

    $400 is pretty limiting on those.
     
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    I think a Used Glock 21 might be in that range. ?
    If your budget is strict that alone might push you to the SKS, which you could get with some ammo for $400.
     
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    For home defense, go with a handgun. More maneuverable, and as others mentioned, less issues with bullets overpenetrating.
     
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    Take a look at the inexpensive 1911 threads in Semiautos and you'll find some recommendations at that price. Remember you can get a much better SKS for $400 than you can a 1911 so you may find the better course may be to get an excellent SKS and ammo and save up for a good entry 1911.
     
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    1911

    Because it is the samurai sword of handguns.
     
  10. Justin

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    If money is tight, get something in 9mm. The ammo is a lot cheaper, which will equate to much more trigger time.
     
  11. makarovnik

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    You could get a Hi-Point pistol and one of their carbines both for just a tad over $400. Double the fun.
     
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    Since you are on a very limited budget, get a 9mm, not a .45. You need to be able to practice to be effective. Look for a used M&P9 or Glock 19/17. You won't get a reliable 1911 for that price.

    And don't even consider the Hi-Point for self defense.
     
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    A Hi-Point carbine is probably better for home defense than a SKS would be. I'm just sayin'. The pistols are also cheap plinking fun.
     
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    I have a 1911 and an SKS. I would not gram the .45 for HD. Do some tests yourself, you will find the penetration is similar. Using a rifle indoors is a matter of learning how to do it correctly.

    But I got my SKS for $100, and I put $300 in upgrades on it. You might not be inclined to do that with prices where they are now.
     
  15. epijunkie67

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    Some questions need to be answered. Do you own anything else? How much shooting experience do you have with pistols and rifles. Any reason for an SKS over an AK or used lower end AR? Would you consider one of the pistol caliber carbines like the kel tec or the Hi Point? Do you need or want the range of a rifle? Are you considering concealed carry?

    Give us some info and we can direct you a little better.
     
  16. CoastieShep

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    Of your 2 options, the .45 for HD, and the SKS for plinking. .45 ammo isn't exactly cheap.
     
  17. Storz

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    How about a .45 carbine of some sort :)
     
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    Might be a good compromise between the two. Hi-Point makes a .45 carbine
     
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    i have both , and would not give my xd45 or 1911 up for a sks.

    i would get the 45 and look for a deal down the road for a SKS.

    $400 IS A BIT LOW FOR A XD AND A BIT HIGH FOR A SK.

    as above HP 45acp carbine is around $350


    as i also have a camp 9 and a camp 45acp setting around

    my.02
     
  20. ForumSurfer

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    Me too! And I'm not old! I bought one at roses for $75...$75 got you a "pick of the litter" rifle, a spam can and some "chineses army" doo-dads.

    As your average working class American, I agree. I switched to 9mm and I have gotten in twice the practice time or more for the same $$$$.
     
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    If you want a .45 get a Rock Island 1911 Tactical. They are fairly "loaded" as far as beavertail, ambi safety , and decent sights. As far as accuracy, they will shoot as good as you can. You can pick one up for $400 easy. Their finish is not as nice as on a $1k pistol , but they are also easy to customize to make it "your own".
    For HD there is nothing like a 230gr JHP. Be careful though 1911s are addictive.
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  22. USAF_Vet

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    Um... why?

    Wait, before you answer that, have you ever owned one? Fired one enough times to know it inside and out? Even held one?

    Practically everyone I've met who knocks Hi Points can not answer yes to any of the above questions with any honesty.

    Why do people knock Hi Point?
    1) Low price.
    A) Hi Point has very limited marketing, which allows for the lower price. The company cost savings here are passed on to the consumer. Advertising is done primarily on a word of mouth basis. Don't think for a minute that the consumer doesn't pay more for a product that is mass marketed.

    2) Polymer
    A) Glock. 'nuff said. But even moreso, many firearms are being released with polymer frames.

    3) Unreliable
    A) Unsurpassed warranty.
    B) Some of the Hi Points made in the 80's had less than stellar QC. The ones in current production are just fine. The argument that they are unreliable is a myth.

    4) Finicky about ammo.
    A) So are a lot of guns. My HP will eat anything and keep on going.

    5) Criminals use them
    A) Criminals also use Beretta, Glock, Sig Sauer, S&W, Ruger, Colt and anything else they can get their hands on, via whatever channels they can utilize.

    6) They are ugly.
    A) So what? Personal preference based on appearance should be a deciding factor for the individual purchasing the gun, not hearsay on an open internet forum.

    7) They are utilitarian
    A) again, so what? Does a gun need three different safties, interchangable sight systems, tactical rails or any of the other accoutrement seen on high end, high dollar guns? No.

    8) They are heavy
    A) not ideal for concealed carry, that is true. But the heavier gun decreases felt recoil. In a .45, I prefer a heavier gun for that very reason.

    Any other common complaints against Hi Point I've missed?

    To the OP. There are non 1911 style pistols in that price range. I have to ask, like others, why the .45? I hope it isn't because of the myth that the .45 has so much power you can hit a guy in the thumb and spin him around dead. Just simply isn't true.

    The SKS is a fun gun, but one I'd only take to the range for plinking. My Father in law has one, which I may get, and I've fired it enough to know I like it, but not for any practical purposes. I wouldn't stake my life on it, so to speak.
    The pistol caliber carbine is a good idea. I have a 9mm Hi-Point 995TS and love it. The Kel-Tec SUB-2000 can be had in your price range, but leaves little room for ammo.
    The .40 S&W or .45ACP Hi Point carbines are also in your price range, and offer a little more thump than a 9mm. Options abound. I'd recommend flipping through a gun buyers guide and list the firearms you like. You may surprise yourself in the end.
     
  23. bk42261

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    I own, have owned, and fired dozens of firearms, including semiauto pistols, revolvers, bolt action ,semiauto, pump action rifles, and shotguns. I currently have a S & W model 65 (actually belongs to the wife) a Mossberg 500 with 24" slug barrel, and a Ruger Single Six. I have always wanted an SKS just for grins and would really like a .45 for HD and CC purposes. Thanks for asking. It's good to know that most people on this site will actually ask pertinent questions rather than go off on a tangent about caliber vs. caliber or type vs. type.
     
  24. CoastieShep

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    Hey USAF Vet, you forgot their lack of bolt on stuff. :neener:
     
  25. USAF_Vet

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    No I didn't, see #7
    Although, the carbines are available with 4x scopes, red dot scopes, vert grips, flashlights and lazers. Hand guns* are available with the lazer as well, but the mount for it is awful.




    *May not apply to .380 and 9mm (I'd check but for the life of me, I really don't care.) :D
     
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