458x2"

[J23]

There is a 700 BDL right now on Gunbroker, though a little high, caught my interest. I had never heard of the cartridge before... Googled it, and surprisingly enough, got quite a few responses.

Anyone have any information or experiences with the caliber?

From my understanding, its actually fairly versitile... load it down to blackpowder 45-70 levels and lead, up through a 450 Marlin-Super-Magnum-anything-that-walks-dislocate-your-clavicle load.

 

[gvnwst]

It is a shortened 458 win mag, according to Cartridges of the World. Lower power and recoil.

 

[Wanta B]

I now have two leveractions in this chambering.My take on it is that IT is the cartridge that Marlin was going for with it's .450Marlin.Thing is that I hear their Lawyers are responsible for the wider belt to keep it from being loaded into say a .300WinMag and fired...BOOM!!...BIG lawsuit do to someone not accepting personal accountability for not paying attention to their own actions.

Sorry that was a bit of a rant...

GREAT cartridge,lots of potential...When loaded to a certain level it has better penitration than .460 Weatherby.My theory is do to the surface tention of liquid in the tissues,ie. slowly "shove" hand into water as opposed to "slapping" your hand into the water.Old muzzle loader acheaving 8' of pennitration into water,.50BMG desintegrating at 6".You are absolutely correct it can go from house cat to near rip your shoulder off.

If you hand load -and this is wear the .450M lost it- you simply cut down near any common belted mag brass to leangth and load it up!

Actualy mine are 2 1/8" same as 45-70.No real reason for it other than going for a modern version of that old cartridge.I have also given quite a bit of consideration to using it like 45-70 can be in 45-90s,or 38spl in 357mag. in a leveraction.

Wanta B