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5.56 and .223 supplies are nonexistent

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by nathan, Dec 26, 2012.

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  1. nathan

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    Having an AR rifle and no ammo is moot.This will just intensify as Biden and his committee ramp up the gun ban scare by January.
     
  2. Double Naught Spy

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    It is only a problem for those who did not prepare properly. As with last time and the time before, this will all come to pass.
     
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  3. nathan

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    THe bad thing for most new AR owners, the 5.56 bulk ammo supply are nonexistent, low in supply and even cost more bec of all the demand . Well, if you are an AR shooter, expect to pay more and much more. Expect 1000 rd bulk to hover in the $600 plus .
     
  4. Walkalong

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    I'll quit shooting .223 before I pay that kind of price. I'll stick with .22 LR if I have to, but I won't pay any exorbitant prices while this lasts.

    Fortunately, most calibers have not seen any real run, so there are options for shooters while this plays out.
     
  5. zxcvbob

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    That's not really fair to someone who bought a AR-15 just a couple of weeks ago, right before the insanity started. Not everybody started in the 1990's. But if you've had it for a while, even a little while, yeah you should have stocked up.

    I bought a Mini-14 last spring. I have enough ammo and reloading components for it to last me a few years, but I wish I had more -- and a few more magazines.
     
  6. bubba in ca

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    dutch tulip boom

    First, read up on the Dutch tulip boom--I think it was a couple hundred years ago so there should be much on the net.
    Second, there is not necessarily going to be a ban. Obama scores points with his base just by crying and trying.
    Third, if there is a ban, it may not include every gun. Past practice is pistol grips, bayonet lugs, 30 round mags, etc.
    fourth, past practice may be irrelevant--they may go for everything and they may win!
    Fifth, life is not fair. Buy a shotgun until this blows over or we lose it all
     
  7. nathan

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    Owning an AR and buying the ammo are getting more expensive as its ever been--- fueled by the recent shootings and looming gun ban. i myself would just have to settle with my AK s and SKSs bec i got all the ammo i need for years .

    I also probably would have to consider getting a .17 HMR rifle and a good scope . And get more .22 LRs to fuel my other rimfires once they get back to normal supply.
     
  8. Reefinmike

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    At first I was a little put off by the fact that a box of 223 reloads is costing me $3.50 plus my time when you can get russian steel for $5 a box, but NOW I see the benefits. I'll take my $175/case handloads any day over searching high and low to buy a $18 box of ammo.
     
  9. Warp

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    Years ago I swore up and down that I would get an "assault rifle" before the 2008 elections. But I couldn't afford it, and I was convinced there would be no legislation, so I didn't.

    I finally afforded an AR type rifle (what I wanted all those years) this summer (July). Between the rifle itself, accessories (optic, sling, light), magazines, ammo, and some spare parts, expenses got seemingly-astronomical in a hurry.

    Forgive me for not being able to afford thousands upon thousands of rounds of ammo between July and now, such that this availability wouldn't/won't affect me.

    It doesn't help my stocks that I have already fired 1,750 rounds through it.

    I would like to see people stop lashing out in anger at those who would like to buy ammunition right now.
     
  10. WinThePennant

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    This will sort itself out.

    Keep an ear to the ground. Local contacts at your LGS is key. I've got a line on some AR lowers that are damn near impossible to find any where, but I think I'll probably score a couple next week.
     
  11. herkyguy

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    my AR sits in the safe, happy as can be. i have a few hundred rounds of .223, enough to get me by target shooting for the next several months. i only shoot a magazine or two every couple of months. if anything, i just need to pony up and buy a reloading kit.
     
  12. TimboKhan

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    I ordered some .223 off of Cabelas, and while the price was fine, the wait to get it blows. I ordered on 12-24 and the estimated date of delivery is 3/15!

    But, the price was right because it was on sale, and I have enough to repel boarders for a little while. I will do what I did last time, which is not shoot my AR all that often, and I will buy a box or two of everything else I need as the opportunity arises.

    Like Walkalong, I am perfectly happy shooting .22 if thats all I can afford to shoot, and I have a lot of .22lr at the house. I am sort of wishing I would have stocked up more on .17HMR, but I suspect that isn't a caliber that will be looked at as a ZOMG!!! caliber, so I should be allright.

    With all that being said, I do find myself wishing I would have done a better job stocking up a couple of years ago when reality hit again, but oh well. It's not like I am without any ammo, and I have a ton of rounds for my Mosin if it comes to that.
     
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    I don't own an AR but I have plenty of brass and components to reload for it. AR shooters seem to never pick up their brass. I also have a mold for casting bullets and I own a few mags already. I was looking ahead to potentially purchase one so I started buying small things in advance. Now it seems like I won't ever purchase one. Which doesn't bother me one bit.


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  14. Sky

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    I am moving overseas as soon as my house stateside is sold. One of the LGS guys I know wants to buy all my ARs and another LGS wants me to bring some by so he can pick and choose. One of the women who shoots in some of the pistol matches is wanting everything I have for Gun Broker; she is the local Guru on getting stuff sold with pics and answering questions etc etc. She charges $50 for her service. The ammo I have has been begged for and money offered if and when I sell....I still have not sold anything, but I should. I have a great safe and friends have offered to take everything an store the whole "THANG" for me but....I will only be coming back for the occasional brief visits so that really will not work for the guns or me.

    It is like selling one of your beloved pets...not easy to do and I don't even consider myself a gun nut; go figure.
     
  15. browningguy

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    My supply is still safe.

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    I feel for the folks who had been saving up and are now in this position (or who just came of age), but shooting centerfire has never been a poor man's game. That said, if your priorities were in it, long periods of time or large incomes were not requisite to be prepared for what has been writing on the wall the last few years. I turned 18 in 2000, bought my first AR in 2004. I never stopped stocking magazines and ammo, just did it a little at a time. I have also never made large amounts of money: My average gross income over the last decade has only been about $55k, which ain't that high in CO. But firearms were always a priority in my life, as opposed to expesnsive weekend entertainment, nice new cars or fancy electronics. I seldom go out to eat or to movies and other spendy social activities, I drive 20+ year old cars, and still have my 25" Magnavox television, ca. 2001. As such, I currently am just sitting back and watching the frenzy with my 4.5 ARs and thousands of rounds of 5.56x45 and 7.62x51 sitting safely in the other room, while a complete lower I don't need sits on consignment in the event that someone else wants it more than I do in this insane market.

    This has been coming, guys. It wasn't an "if", but a "when". History repeats itself.
     
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    The only reason .223 or 5.56 NATO is scarce is because at the onset of this latest scare people bought all they could and in short order. It's not like the world stopped manufacturing the stuff. Eventually it will return to the shelves and I doubt at any higher prices than before.

    If any legislation comes of this it will likely target the guns and magazines. Possibly a few bullet types in the ammunition but that would be about it. Running in a panic mode people bought all they could depleting the current supplies. Not like many of us have not seen this before. I figure eventually the shelves will be restocked. Just as in the past, it will take time. So where you can back order I would do just that and wait. Patience as good things come to those who wait.

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  18. W.E.G.

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    I keep telling you.

    You need to have THREE YEARS worth of shooting supplies if you do not want to be immediately affected by events like this. They keep happening, and people keep not paying attention.

    If you are just 19 years old, I understand that getting supplies of that magnitude may be unrealistic at several levels.

    If you are 29, and you are voicing this sort of complaint, shame on you.

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    Agree, and if you were 29 about 30 plus years ago a real big shame on you! :)

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  20. Hacker15E

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    I was able to find .223 at both a LGS and WalMart in my local area (Oklahoma).

    Not very much of it, but it was on the shelves yesterday.
     
  21. nathan

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    If you want AR, then pay AR prices. ARs always been expensive and it will continue to become expensive to shoot. Evey one wants to have one. The more demand the more they reap you off. Thats the American way.
     
  22. taliv

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    i wouldn't worry as much about ammo. there's a lot of production capacity for it
     
  23. Art Eatman

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    This furor reminds me of the time that Johnny Carson, on his late-night TV show, made the idle comment that he had heard that there was a shortage of toilet paper in grocery stores around the country.

    Within three days, there was. Nationwide.

    Folks in the gun world are already talking about being low on money. That means a slowdown in buying, which means that the manufacturers will catch up to the ongoing normal demand.
     
  24. 788Ham

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    Over the past 2 years, I've bought .223 bullets from a couple of different places, no big lots, 300 to 500 at a time. When I told my buddy, he just laughed, "What the hell you gonna do with all of those?" Last week he called me, "Hey Ham, you still got all of those bullets, can I buy 500 off you?" Seems as though demand was/is higher than he expected too. We're going to go to a place today and see if they have some powder and primers, might see if they have any bullets too...... he might wise up today!!??
     
  25. M1key

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    My concern is that at some point new gun control legislation might ban importation of "assault rifle" calibers...223, 7.62x39, 5.45, and 308, etc.

    M
     
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