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50 yards and beyond.

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by el Godfather, Oct 22, 2013.

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Which will perform better beyond 50 yards?

  1. 9mm Luger

    8 vote(s)
    7.5%
  2. 40 SW

    3 vote(s)
    2.8%
  3. 10mm Auto

    71 vote(s)
    66.4%
  4. 45 ACP

    6 vote(s)
    5.6%
  5. None of the above

    19 vote(s)
    17.8%
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  1. el Godfather

    el Godfather Member

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    Dear THR:
    When in woods where it is uncertain how far is your enemy/aggressor/small 4 legged creature (eg wolf) which caliber will perform better beyond 50 yards? I believe in this scenario we need a bullet that can penetrate and maintain higher energy level.

    In consideration are 45, 40, 9 or 10mm. No revolvers/rifles for this discussion.

    Thank you
     
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  2. Teachu2

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    In the woods, the trees get in the way. 50 yards will require shooting through the trunks...
     
  4. el Godfather

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    I know for sure 223 wont go through any trunk.
     
  5. mavracer

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    Well a 223 is a poor choice for shooting thru tree trunks:confused:

    As to the OP it's pretty simple math that the 10mm is going to have the most downrange oomph.
    I'd give honorable mention to the 38 Super I have a 150gr LSWC load that'll do 1200fps from my 5" Kimber and does fine in the accuracy dept out to 100.
     
  6. Teachu2

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    Nor should you be taking a 50-yard shot with a handgun. What's your NEXT poll - When in space, which type of bullet is most effective?
     
  7. 19-3Ben

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    That's funny.

    I voted for 10mm, but in terms of long range trajectory of a pistol round, perhaps something like a 7.62 Tok? Maybe even a .357sig?
     
  8. ljnowell

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    I think those of us who compete at that distance may feel a little different about it
     
  9. ATLDave

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    The 10mm is on a different energy level than the others listed, and is pretty clearly the winner out of those. It's also going to be flatter-shooting than the .45, which will be the closest competitor for terminal ballistics. That probably doesn't matter a whole lot at 50 yards, but it's starting to matter some. Add another 25-50 yards, and the difference gets big in a hurry.
     
  10. Fred in Wisc

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    If you are talking about using a gun to prevent a big critter from eating you, the 5 foot ballistics are way more important. 50 yards isn't a defensive shooting, it's poaching.
     
  11. M2 Carbine

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    This handgun does right well at 100 yards................

    [​IMG]

    ...........when just standing and plinking. :D
    [​IMG]
     
  12. Fishbed77

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    I've seen .223 go through a 12" tree trunk easily.

    It depends entirely on the bullet and density of the wood.
     
  13. el Godfather

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    Ever been near wolves?
     
  14. el Godfather

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    Sure why not? You have never been to space yet???
     
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    When out on family property I often run into feral dogs. I carry a 9mm, but I certainly prefer to not use it. I would much rather keep them at least 50 yards away so that my AR can take care of them.

    If you are 50 yards away from a 4-legged animal (with only a pistol to defend yourself) and want to survive, then here's a tip: Move away without shooting. No need to shoot at it and risk ticking it off by making a marginal hit or miss.


    Let's get a more useless scenario for a poll :rolleyes:
     
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    Yes, actually I have. And I have found no need to shoot at them from 50 yards away claiming that it was defensive. Same goes for bears, alligators, and lions.

    If I was going into dangerous territory with these kinds of animals then I assure you, it would not be with a 9mm, .40 S&W, or .45 caliber handgun.
     
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    50 yards really isn't that far away if a pack of wolves, or feral dogs, where charging at you. I'd think I'd want to drop the first one as far away as possible to give the rest of the pack plenty of time to reconsider their course of action
     
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    The 10mm is the best of the calibers listed at 50 yards. The 38 super would be a good round also.
    You should add the Desert Eagle or Coonan for your next poll. That should get some of the above posters rabid!!
     
  19. el Godfather

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    Lolz

    What I take it there are certain people who do not like me or my threads yet feel compelled to post to make a point.

    9mm.... is spot on the point.

    In woods with ferocious creatures you dont take chances.
     
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    Remember, an animal, no matter how big and scary, has to be close enough to touch you before he can hurt you. 50 yard shots need not apply.

    But to answer the question as asked, silly as it is, 10 MM.
     
  21. Teachu2

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    50 yards on a living, moving target in woods is a different shot entirely than 50 yards on a shooting range.
     
  22. M2 Carbine

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    50 yards just isn't all that far.

    My back yard (range) is over 50 yards across.
    If there was something dangerous, man or beast in the yard and heading my way, I'm definitely going to be shooting it at 50 yards, or as far away as possible.

    [​IMG]
     
  23. Shipwreck

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    This :D:D
     
  24. el Godfather

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    How would the bullet drop effect the heavier bullets than the lighter 9mm?
     
  25. Steve C

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    All the calibers listed have sufficient velocity to easily kill at 100 yds those things you would feel comfortable to take on at closer range. According to the ballistics charts a .45 acp 230gr fmj at 100 yds will still be traveling at 767 fps. The 9mm's and the .40 S&W will be between 900 and 1030 fps.

    The problem with ranges beyond 50 yds with any of the service handguns isn't the caliber they shoot, it is the ability of the shooter to hit what they aim at with the short sight radius of a handgun. A good shot should have no problems hitting a dog sized target at 100 yds with a handgun, esp if they can walk in the shots. An expert shot can hit will beyond that range. If you have seen Bob Munden hitting a target with a handgun at 200 to 600 yds there is little doubt about the proficiency of a top notch shooter.
     
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