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50cal automatic sniper rifles should be banned

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Stingray, Aug 22, 2005.

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  1. Stingray

    Stingray Member

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    Lookie what I got in the mail. The BS is overwealming
     

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  2. dasmi

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    Wow. Just wow.
     
  3. Henry Bowman

    Henry Bowman Senior Member

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    Can't read the fine print. Do they list sources, prices and specs? :p
     
  4. Third_Rail

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    How about someone does a parody?


    ".22 long rifle rimfire assault weapon caliber ... maximum range 2 miles, capable of shooting down planes.


    this .22 long rifle rimfire assault weapon caliber has been used in more killings than all other cartridges combined."


    All of which, due to wording and other reasons, is true. Pretty compelling reason to ban .22lr, NOT.
     
  5. Kjervin

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    Not very mobile for a hunting rifle (especially for hunting humans). You would have to hunt over bait (like maybe a dozen burgers or a Ribeye). When does human hunting season start in IL and can I get a non-resident hunting license? :evil:
    KJ
     
  6. Daniel T

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    Every single thing on that card was a lie. Amazing that they feel so confident in their propaganda that they'd lie so blatantly.

    Really, it's astounding. I'm speechless.
     
  7. carebear

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    So they aren't even showing that which they are protesting?! :rolleyes:

    Both the weapons pictured are actual machineguns, Class 3 weapons.

    It might be worth a polite, informative, non-aggressive letter to the editor to point out the fallacies. Perhaps call a friendly reporter to cover the misinformation campaign.
     
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    Oh. I thought that WAS the parody. :what:
     
  9. Standing Wolf

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    It's often impossible to distinguish between leftist extremist "thinking" and satire.
     
  10. meathammer

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    Who exactly mailed you that trash?


    --meathammer
     
  11. scout26

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    As a fellow "citizen" of the PDRI. (*)

    Pray tell who sent you that ????!!




    PDRI - People's Democratic Republic of Illinois.
     
  12. Stingray

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    Here is the inside. It is from State Representative Kathy Ryg
     

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    who was responsible for that distorted garbage?
     
  14. Beemerguy53

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    Bill Clinton never inhaled.

    Clearly, Kathy Ryg never exhaled...
     
  15. Stingray

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    The most amazing thing to me is that the lies are so jumbled up with actual facts, that I find it hard to determine what exactly she is trying to ban. I guess she just wants the "assault weapon" ban back in effect which doesnt really cover any of the main points that she states.

    I also have to wonder if she is just outright lying, if she is just too lazy to do the actual research and find out what she is trying to ban, or if she just doesnt care.
     
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    Aghast at the outright bold faced lies that unirmormed citizens will swallow as truth....what a lying peice of (censored, censored, OMG, CENSORED!!!) ! :fire:
     
  17. DonP

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    Class III weapons are already illegal here

    Fully automatic weapons, as pictured on that mailer, are already illegal here.

    Or didn't the lovely representative's staff already figure that out?

    More "agitprop" from the anti's desparately looking for a win of any kind to drive the next Brady press release on their continued "success".

    They are really sucking air these days with the AWB gone and their local efforts struggling at every level. CCW is passing everywhere else and thankfully there hasn't been a school shooting in years to demonize and roll in the blood.

    The Chicago MMM chapter, even in liberal Oak Park, can't find anyone as an organizer for their local Meetups. Heck, I'm one of the most frequent posters on their national Meet Up web site. That's just pathetic.

    Oh, for the entertainment value, another frequent poster on their national Meet up message board is "Mother Bear". Gee, now who could that really be?
     
  18. fistful

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    Let me admit my ignorance.

    Is it reasonable to use a .50 BMG rifle or machine gun for shooting planes? I seem to remember they have been mounted on planes, so I suppose they could be used to shoot down other planes that way. But would it make sense to try it from the ground? Too slow? I have fired M2's for familiarization prior to my Bosnia tour, but I have no idea what is required for shooting down airplanes.

    What is the maximum range or max effective range of the M2?

    Laugh away.

    Edit: This just in. I am also ignorant of who mother bear would be? Rosy herself?
     
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    Who sent it?

    I don't see any return address on it.
     
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    Someone better informed than I will be along shortly, but in the meantime I'll take a stab at it:

    Technically, you could use a .50 (or any rifle for that matter) to shoot at airplanes. Obviously you have the best chance of hitting them when they are at their slowest & lowest: take off & landing.

    As to whether a single .50 bullet could damage an airliner enough to bring it down, I doubt it.

    Even if you succeeded in getting debilitating hits (I can't see how a single .50 bullet could take down something the size of a commercial airliner), the plane is still a few hundred feet off the ground max, so it could still make it down safely, I'd imagine.

    With an M2 automatic .50, I'm sure you could bring down an airliner upon take off or landing, if nothing else by killing both pilot and copilot.

    To answer the question: it COULD be done, but it is very, very unlikely, and IMO, impossible to do with anything less than a semi-auto.

    Either way, it is not a logically supportable position to advocate banning an item based on what people could do with it.
     
  21. Lucky

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    Wow, I never though about it like that before. Guys, we have to do something. I thought I was made of stone, but her arguments are pretty persuasive.

    Come on guys, let's turn all the rifles in. If you need someone brave to take the first step, I guess it will be me. I volunteer.

    Now, I'm in Canada, so you will have to mail me your rifle, but I promise it will be destroyed and I'll mail you back pictures of it's little grave, overlooking a scenic mountain.

    Do it for families and police officers, do it for humanity.
    http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y149/54919391/ARs/MeN311y.jpg


    By the way, would someone please take one of these pamphlets to the store and present it like a coupon? Seriously, it would be funny.
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  22. SOFDC

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    A .50 in the intake would certainly cause some technical difficulties.

    ....And so would any other relatively solid object that gets in there. Bullets, birds, RC model aircraft, a metal crossbow bolt, heck, someone sticking their ear-spacer in there.
     
  23. Matthew748

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    What garbage. This seems to be timed to coincide with the upcoming Cook County AWB. There is a thread on that on this board too. I have finally worked myself up to make the move to Indiana. I just hope that the stink of Illinois is not so heavy upon me that I am turned away at the border.
     
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    She graduated from NIU!

    I should of expected that.
     
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