54R: New Rifle

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I think it's high time someone or some company designs and sells one! It is too popular a cartridge to not have a modern day version that shoots the 7.62X54R.
 
It ain't happening unless you get a custom job or build it DIY. 7.62x54R is a very old foreign cartridge and it did not pick up steam in the U.S. until the cheap Mosin-Nagants came flooding in. Mosins still go for $150 or less all over the country; there's no way a modern company looking for profit is going to be able to beat that sort of price and come up with anything approaching quality.
 
Think about that, though. The main draw of the cartridge is because its cheap. The surplus and steel cased ammo isn't exactly match grade. It is nice though. The main draw of the Mosin is because its also inexpensive and will do everything you need it to, from target shooting to plinking to hunting. There are plenty of ways you can customize them and people have made them pretty darn accurate for about the same price you could buy a NIB new production bolt gun.
I would wager we won't see one produced for some time. Nobody is going to want to buy an expensive bolt action rifle to shoot 54r when they can pick up a Mosin for $100.
Semi-Autos on the other hand, absolutely have their draw.
 
If you want a bolt gun that's accurate and cheap with good ammo availability, buy a used hunting rifle in .308 Win or .30-06 . If you want a bolt action in 54r, get a mosin. If you want an accurate bolt action in 54r, you'll have to build one, and make your own ammunition.

Frankly, and this is only my opinion, saying you want a good, accurate bolt gun chambered in 54r is like commissioning a golden sculpture, and specfying that it should look like a blow-up doll. If you want a blow-up doll, just get a blow-up doll. Or a M-N, in this case.

If you want a good bolt gun, there's TONS of them out there in calibers with better inherent accuracy than 54r.

Don't get me wrong, I personally LIKE 54r, but i like it because it's powerful, accurate ENOUGH, and most of all, CHEAP. Cheap enough for cheap guns.
 
I would start by calling all the barrel makers and asking if they will make you a custom barrel in that caliber, for the Rem 700 or Savage or whatever you want.
 
2075 RAMI: Reloading is simply not an option for me. My wife and I live in an apartment. No room in the inn for reloading equipment.

I live in a small apartment and reload. I keep everything in a box in my closet. My press is bolted to a 2x4 and I can clamp that 2x4 to the table and load where ever I want to. Sometime's I even take all my stuff to the range with me and load at the bench.
 
I was speaking more on the lines of someone who does not really like modifying a piece of history, but really likes the 7.62X54R. There are conversion kits out there available to modify Mosin Nagants, but some collectors may not want to go that route. They may actually be willing to pay extra for a NIB scoped rifle.
 
http://www.mcgowenbarrel.com/ can do moisen match barrels probably



11-18-2008, 09:11 PM

A few years ago you counld buy new a CZ 527 bolt action in 7.62x54R, complete with Mannlicher style stock and steel muzzle cap. It's not available now that I know of, aside from running across a used one.

http://www.cz-usa.com/products/ check cz,their catologues show a lot of rimmed cartridges that bolts might match 762x54.all you need is a barrel

http://www.remington.com/pages/news-and-resources/centerfirebycaliber.aspx
 
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If you go to wikipedia and search for 7.62x54r they have a list of all rifles ever chambered in that round. Just pick one off of the list.
 
Semi-Autos on the other hand, absolutely have their draw.

But how popular are semi-automatic rifles chambered for cartridges that size? In production now there's the M1A, some .308 AR-type rifles, and...I can't think of any others offhand.
 
In production now there's the M1A, some .308 AR-type rifles, and...I can't think of any others offhand.

FAL, SCAR, RFB, PTR (Looks like alphabet soup huh?). The .308 semi auto is a new market.
 
Dont forget the hunting autos; BARs, 7400, old win 100s, Merkel SR-1s, Benelli R-1s, and a number of others i cant think of.
 
ISnt it the Saiga company sells bolt actions in 54 r? The Finns did a good job of making a platform thats very accurate , look no other than the M 39---yes, and that s back in 1930s.
 
What about a pre-Bubba'ed rifle?

Have you though about buying a pre-sporterized Mosin and fix it to your liking?

I have a Mosin and the only modifications I have made are easy to convert back. I may down the road make some changes that are not as easy to undo.
 
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In production now there's the M1A, some .308 AR-type rifles, and...I can't think of any others offhand.
FAL, SCAR, RFB, PTR (Looks like alphabet soup huh?). The .308 semi auto is a new market.

Don't forget the VEPR and the PSL in the x54R market.
 
New vs. Surplus ammo

Why the fear of corrosive ammo? Chrome bore and routine cleaning take care of that.

Because I live in an apartment and feel that I would need a utility sink to get the level of cleaning I would be comfortable with after shooting corrosive ammo.
 
I would need a utility sink to get the level of cleaning I would be comfortable with after shooting corrosive ammo.

Do you have a tub or a shower? That is what I use for my black powder rifle.
 
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