Not that I could ever find, but I've thought about having a barrel made for one of my Mini's and some custom dies. But I'm not one to pour money down a hobby rathole either. This 6.5 Grendel is proving to be a real shooter, and deadly on game, so as much as I'd love to lob 140 grain 7mm bullets at 2400 fps, my 123 grain 6.5's at 2500 will have to do for now.
That's what I was after!
Interesting opinion. Can you back that up with numbers to help me understand the reasoning?
It's still plenty heavy for the plains game, as stated, and if it's true weight, then neither the Grendel nor the .243 will be present.Fair enough!
The .243 will always be flatter shooting. But for us "heavy bullet" fans, it will also always be lacking in that area.
Maybe it's just me but I still can't get my head wrapped around a 100 grain bullet.
Lol the number of times I've heard that, you reference a 120 btip? At 2500? (S.d. .264) it works well enough yes? 105 vld hunting berger =.264
. 7.62x39 takes plenty of deer and hogs with 123s (s.d. .183) (smaller than a .243 85 gr .206). Weight starts counting more with diameters that rely on frontal diameter more than velocity opening a cavity, I.e. .357, .44, .41, .45 etc. Otherwise, bullet construction, appropriate velocities, and sectional density make a bigger difference than sheer weight. It's been a LONG time since I relied on weight and energy to do the killing, and if I were crossing the Atlantic I might again, but it turns out, thanks to modern bullets, that mentality isn't necessary for clean ethical kills from accurate shot placement. There's a thread in hunting about a .300 Wm 165 partition failing at 40 yds, my wife's buck, and my buddy's doe were shot at almost identical distances, he was running .270 134 bxrs on a hard quartering to shot at 30ish yds, she was running 6mm prohunters at 40 ish yd, hard quartering to, he had no exit, bloodshot decimation on the entering quater, bone shards scattered through the chest cavity, .5 heart and .25 lung recovered, and a good chuckle about long range bullets at close range, doe ran flat 20 yds into the death plowcircle. She had a full exit out the far ham, half a heart, and .25 of a lung, and yup, bone shards through the chest cavity, buck death bucked (muley) 20 yds and plowed over. I'd bet that at 40 yds the 123 sst would have similar results on a similar shot presentation. There'll be less recoil for sure, but that's moot for killing power. Plains game just doesn't take much killing. I've never been charged by a buffalo (not bison) nor rhino nor elephant nor brown bear whilst stalking pronghorn and bambis, and the coyotes just CAN'T get "out of range" if you can still see em lol. On different terrain, or with different game, the hot 6.5s and 08 class 7s and 30s+ come into their own but a 123 is plenty in a 6.5, too small in a .30-06 for a reason .
