Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by highlander 5, Mar 19, 2020.
So there IS some logic to say it’s less sensical to build an uncommon mini-length rifle which costs as much and weighs as much as a standard short action, but lacks ballistic performance.
A 6.5 Grendel bolt gun is a dandy pleasure, which rubs off a lot of the excessive damage done on small game which comes with a 6.5 Creed or Swede, and considering ammunition cost and recoil, there’s plenty of logic to a mini-action bolt action rifle in 6.5 Grendel.
Pretty well said. I don't think I could cut a coffee cup size hole at 1000 yards with mine, but it's not a big stretch to hit 18" steel at that range, or even out to 1100, with a good scope and wind calls. That in itself is pretty good, 18" at 1000 yards is 1.8 MOA, or thereabouts. I've been shooting mine for about 4 years now, built my AR. I've been using 123 AMAX, but looking forward to working up some 130ELD loads. Only giving up 150 fps MV, so I figure the improved BC and a tad more weight should offset that, and then some. I'd like an opportunity to shoot a nice bolt Grendel, where there's more latitude with seating depth and playing with leade, etc.
I had been without a Grendel for a few years when a student wanted to build one, this rifle, which rekindled my interest, and sparked the 243LBC (6mm Grendel) build I finally completed yeast year.
Had one. Nice shooting little round. Shot 4 deer and 8 pigs with mine and then traded my buddy back for my Howa Mini in 7.62x39 because it drops critters 3x as fast as the Grendel.
But for a dedicated range gun, it was fun.
If you hand load, try the 130 Gamechanger over LeverEvolution powder. Dirty but very accurate and great velocity.
I shot one deer with my Grendel and had great shot placement at 35 yards and deer ran the farthest of all deer I've ever shot. Had the best blood trail I've ever had...go figure lol.
My 7.62x39 has accounted for 3 deer and all 3 put together has went 20 yards. With little blood trail...go figure on that one too lol.
Both are effective but for my shot distance for hunting I'll take the 7.62x39 everytime. If I was shooting 200 yards or more then of the two I'd pick Grendel.
I'm not even sure I'd pick the Grendel then honestly. Saw too many critters keep on running with the little G that would have gone down with the x39. After the 4th deer running off, enough was enough.
For a range gun, I'd take the Grendel but for a hunting gun, it's the x39 every day and twice on Sundays.
Truth be told I haven't shot my Grendel in easily over 2 years but it's a great accurate rifle but if I was gonna shoot further than what my 7.62x39 can handle I'll use my 25GPC or 7mm Valkyrie all 4 rifles being AR-15s.
I bought the same rifle about a year ago. Mine has the black plastic stock which is aluminum pillar bedded. Its accuracy is getting down to .5 - .75 MOA with good reloads. Its function has been flawless. Like it so much I just got a 20" mini barreled action in 7.62x39.
I owned both at the same time too. Great for a range/hunting combo.
The Grendel in the Howa platform is very easy to hand load and an effective 300-600 yard range gun. That's what my buddy wanted, more than another hunting rifle, so he ended up with my Grendel and I still have the 7.62x39. I worked the factory plastic Howa stock down on the Grendel to slim the forend and remove about 1/2 lb. It was a treat to carry after that but if I was going to keep it a range gun, I would have left that material on there.
I bought my 7.62x39 mini as just a barreled action, so I dropped it in a Boyd's laminate stock, bedded it, and then spent about a week removing material from the Boyd's stock, removing nearly a pound of weight. The gun is slim and light now and balances great at 6.75 lbs. scoped. It's a real treat to shoot.
Note on the Grendel there are two dies, a I and a II version. Lee makes a II and Redding makes a I version. If you can shoot and can not get under .5 inches change dies to see if your chamber cut and dies do not match. You should be able to shoot .25 with the Grendel even in an AR. I have a couple and both will shoot .25 with the 120 SMK with no problem. You can drop by the Grendel forum and find a good bit of reloading data including the subsonic data for cans.
This is precisely the opposite of what I found on live game. Longer, heavier bullets were penciling through without expanding, even inside 100 yards. Zero blood trails and long tracking jobs.
On the other hand, the 7.62x39 drops game quickly, expands very well and leaves great blood trails.
This, again, is based on my experience shooting live game (deer and pigs) with both.
Is that designed for the .308 bore or .311 asking for a friend
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