Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by deputy bruce, Oct 12, 2021.
Since it does that with lighter bullets, it also has less recoil. Not that the 6.5G is a bruiser, but every little bit helps.
FWIW, supposedly both rounds have magazine problems with higher capacity mags not feeding them reliably. I don't know anyone that owns either in an auto so I'm going on just internet rumors which could be true or could be BS. But if I could get reliable 25-30 round 6mm ARC mags it would be a really appealing option for an AR that could do everything from plinking to long range stuff and work from CQB range out to DMR range.
This statement echoes my own, which I suppose is a significant illustration of my endorsement of the 6 ARC over the 6.5 Grendel - I began shooting the Grendel not long after Wild Bill had released his early group buys, and have thoroughly enjoyed the cartridge for these ~17-18yrs, despite the name game and Alexander’s poor supply chain management, and jumping through hoops with Type I and Type II and LBC’s from other vendors... But having that experience with the round, and doing what I do with it, I wanted more. So about 7yrs ago, I started exploring 6mm variants, and eventually ~4yrs ago built my 243LBC (6 Grendel, 6 ARC on steroids). So I spent extra energy to buy parts and dies and form brass for the performance I wanted from the 6.5 Grendel case... but today, the advent of the ARC makes it easier, as ammo, brass, dies, and barrels are all readily available, with no case forming work.
It all depends on how far you are shooting and the accuracy you want to achieve, within 700 yards I’ll stick with 223/556
For me, I would not be pulling the trigger on anything ARC related until I see how this plays out a little longer. Right now, I don't feel comfortable investing the caliber yet.
The 6 arc is doing much better then the 6.5cm did, and it's doing it in the worst possible time.
In what way? I'm curious. At Ammoseek there's considerably more .224 Valkyrie available there is 6.5 G, a shocking amount in fact. Is there some fashion in which .224 Valkyrie isn't supported?
There's a few good reasons there is so much 224V available.
For me and the confines of the AR-15 in regards to the cartridge case I think the 6mm variant makes more sense that the 6.5 counterpart. I have a 6.5G and haven't shot it in years, its so dang accurate that I can't part with it.
I guess I've not seen that. I haven't seen the marketing push from Hornady. I haven't seen much in the way of advertisement in the gun rags or the YouTube influencers. As a dealer, I'm not see any push from distributors or reps. I'm just not seeing much at all for this cartridge.
Pretty much the only big companies loading for it are Federal and Hornady has a few loads. I just am not seeing it expanding in it's lineup. Most places locally either stopped carrying it or only have a very small selection.
A lot more speed. I was in strong favor of the Turbo40 with a slight twinge towards the FatRat before I bought my first 243LBC barrel. I have messed around with a few sole source cartridges and just wasn’t in the mood, and 243LBC was/is open source.
I was really hoping the ARC was going to be blown out like the T40, but with that shorter case length to fit the longer bullets into AR mags.
I’ll give Hornady a pass for not pushing harder on a cartridge they launched out of public demand following leaks during the first days of a multi-year global pandemic. But I’ll also mention - I only take on about one build per month these days, sometimes two, but since the drop just a tad over a year ago, I’ve had calls to build 5 of them, which has been 100% of the non-5.56/223 builds I’ve had requested.
Comparatively though, I only had ONE serious request for 224 Valkyrie build in its first year, none for 22 Nosler (naturally), and only two .350 Legends, which were a little bit skewed, because I sold mine to a friend after he liked it, and then his dad ordered one for himself and his grandson. So SOMEBODY must be pushing it more effectively and customers must be believing the hype much more than “normal.” 6 ARC definitely makes more sense for my common market than most of the others, so it’s probably skewed in that way as well, but I’ve been really surprised by how many calls I’ve gotten about it versus some others.
When Federal Rushed it to the market before getting the twist right and had to recall/stop making their Premium Gold Medal Match because the hunting loads were more accurate that killed it for me
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