Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by RussellC, Jun 30, 2019.
You are correct, and if building a Grendel, I would rather it be the other type.......
I just went through this quandary since I wound up with a set of 7.62x39 dies and wanted a retirement project. In the end I went with 300 blackout because of the bullet options for reloading. I have an AK and a Yugo SKS to get my x39 on when I want to, so now I have all the bits and bobs to assemble a complete AR in 300 BLK. Last week I was an engineer, and this week I am an old retired guy with a box of parts and time on my hands.
IMHO.... x39 is for AKs and 5.56x45 is for ARs. I own and like both
Here's my new 7.62x39 shooter! Supposed to have a great barrel in it, when I get a scope rail, mount, for it, I guess I'll see!
I like the 7.62x39 in the AK's and have a few, but only one in an AR, HK and a SiG 556R
It even works good in a bolt gun, this is an Interarms, but I'm thinking about a CZ also if I find the right deal.
It seems strange that the AK was designed for the 7.62x39 ...
... but it's more accurate in just about every other gun I've shot it in.
I had a 300 BLK, but sold it and built a x39, and couldn't be happier on all accounts.
Mine eats every type of bullet, HP, SP, FMJ, PT, etc. I have C-Products and ASC mags and have no issues. I have to about 900 rounds through it and it's probably my favorite AR to take to the range. I can boringly ring 12x12 steel at 300 yards with it. I have it sighted a little high at 50 which puts it on at 300. I have a red dot with 3x flip to side magnifier. With some Kentucky elevation I can fairly reliably hit the steel at 500 (not sure the size of the steel maybe 16x16?) with it with about a 6' holdover. With a scope I think 500 yards with it, it would be a simple matter.
Ditto on the RAR ranch rifle in 7.62x39. I load cast bullets over 2400 for range fund and Rx-7 for upper end hunting loads. It shoots 2 MOA with the 2,000 fps 150 cast bullets sized at .313. With 123 hornady sps, a good trigger puller can do MOA.
Regarding the cartridge generally, I went to HogSwat down in GA last fall. They furnish you with a AR 15 in 7.62x39. It is equipped with a suppressor and top end Pulsar thermal sights. 123 Brown Bear soft points will just flat anchor 300 lb feral pigs in the peanut fields.
I've hunted nowhere that I can take longer than about a 100 yard shot., the opportunity never has presented itself. Last two deer I took were about 75 feet, baited with corn, and I used Tula 154 grain soft points. Cheap ammo but a quick clean kill, easily accurate enough for 50 yards. I'm getting minute of paper plate all day at 100 using any old steel case without benching which is good enough for my uses, it's just a hunting/ranch do it all gun for me. that I rarely clean or oil. I ditched all my rifle reloading stuff, got rid of .308 guns, and focused on x39 because I hate the case prep and I can shoot and not worry about picking up cases. Finances are limited so its more practical to focus on one main lower cost caliber (for me). I like to grab a box of ammo every week. Tula at Academy is about 10 bucks for a 40 round pack. Slow stocking builds a nice pile after a while. I don't love AK's, not my first choice (FAL, cough) but it's much easier for anyone in my family to use. I've yet to have a single issue with any steel cased ammo thru my rifles.
The issue is the AK was never designed to be accurate, it was designed to be cheap, reliable, and require minimal maintenance so it could stop the capitalist pigs from overrunning Mother Russia.
Strangely enough, it's the other way around, the 0.125" x39 bolt is the Type 1, and the 0.136" original Grendel specific bolt is known as the Type 2.
I threw an AR together in 7.62x39 last year with leftovers and a cheap barrel bolt combo on sale. Decided to reload when i found brass dirt cheap at a local gun show. The results were a great shooting AR using 123 gr FMJ and JSP over Reloader 7.
Attached is my last outing at 100 yds. Please excuse the one flyer.....lol
As for the cheap commie ammo, I leave that for the AK and SKS.
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