7.62x25 tokarev pistol

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I've got one of the TT-33's. Fugly gun. Crudely produced... but serviceable nonetheless.

The best part is that it fires a hot round that's CHEAP!!! Lots of fun at the range. I decided to give mine a face lift and fitted it with a set of 1911 grips with Colt medallions on them.

It required that I drill the grip frame to accept 1911 bushings for the grip screws. I had to quite a bit of recontouring of the grips as well. It ended up lookig a LOT like a Colt 1903 and it draws a quite a bit of attention at the range.

It's not exactly odd that it ended up looking like a 1903 though. If you look into the history of the Tokarev, you will see that several aspects of it's design were "borrowed" from the 1903.

Now if I can just smooth out the gritty trigger and tighten up the slide to frame fit a bit.
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Can you provide any more details or pictures on this mod? I have been looking to replace the grips in my Tokarev and would prefer not to recreate the stock brackets if there's a better way.
 
I hate CZ52s. The grip is uncomfortable, they are top-heavy, and the triggers suck. TTs on the other hand, are fun, reliable, and accurate pistols.
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What jonnyc said ... almost ... I do not hate the CZ-52, but I do not particularly like it. I have 3.

I think that the TTs are a great pistol. I have 2 Polish and 3 Soviet TT-33s.
 
so... does anyone own a PPsh41 in semi - as a companion?

For SHTF the round and those 2 weapons should suffice.
Lotsa high penetration ammo..... and reliable guns.

You could bury a TT at every intersection :)
 
I'm a Tok lover, I own 4, a Chinese, 2 Yugo's and a Romanian. I got a bunch of 9mm barrels and barrel bushings. The barrels only cost around $35. I converted some of the extra 9mm barrels to fire the 9x23 Winchester, the ballistic equivalent of the 357 Magnum. I can shoot 7.62x25, 9mm Luger, 9mm Largo, and 9x23 Winchester through them. I have tried 38 Super also, but I had a few jams with it. These are very strong versatile pistols.

I've seen an AK-47 adapted to take a 70 round 7.62x25 drum magazine. That sounds like a lot of fun to me.
 
I'm sorry if this is a stupid question, but why do people own like 4 0r 5 of the same gun? I can see owning several different 870s because there are so many different configurations, but why 4 or 5 Toks?
 
I own multiple copies of several pistols. Here's why.

  • I always have an immediate supply of spare parts if something breaks.
  • In the very unlikely event that I have to use a pistol to shoot someone in self defense, it is likely that it will be confiscated. Having another copy means I can keep carrying/using the same kind of pistol.
  • I can have a carry gun and a house gun that match exactly without having to shift guns around and without impacting what kind of gun is left at home for my wife to use as a house gun.
  • I can practice with a pistol that's identical to my house/carry gun without having to carry/use a dirty gun for HD/SD duty or having to carry/use a different type of pistol while I'm cleaning my practice gun/etc.
  • Odds are good I can always sell one if I decide later on I don't need as many as I have. Odds aren't quite as good I can always buy one if I decide later I want another one. This is particularly true of surplus type pistols and pistols imported from countries that aren't completely friendly with the U.S. in diplomatic terms. The supply tends to be fluid and prices can go from extremely attractive to unreasonable in a surprisingly short amount of time.
 
February 12th, 2009, 10:59 AM #1
tim o'hare
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do we have any tokarev lovers out there?
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OP 2-12-09

No, but I love mt CZ52s
 
I'm sorry if this is a stupid question, but why do people own like 4 0r 5 of the same gun? I can see owning several different 870s because there are so many different configurations, but why 4 or 5 Toks?
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I carry two, one for a New York Reload. I have very small hands and can not reach the trigger on any double stack pistol. If one of those carry guns goes down I have the backups. I can also loan out one to a friend if I want to, without feeling short. I also have these Toks in several different configurations, just like your 870 example. I have the 9mm Luger, the 7.62x25, and the 9x23 Winchester, one with a compensator. I carry the two 9x23 Winchesters. The backup has the comp.
The Toks are very inexpensive right now, but I don't think it will stay that way. I expect them to increase in value. I bought my first one for $89. I haven't spent more than $229 for any of them, and I've already seen them selling for over $350.
 
If your CZ52 doesn't jam, then either it's not a real CZ52, or you're not using real surplus ammo. lol. PS: CZ52 for sale w/ IWB holster, $200.
 
but why 4 or 5 Toks?
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Made by many different countries, collect the whole set! :)

They are cheap surplus right now, pays to have one to shot one to keep for spares, at the very least.

I don't have any trouble with my CZ 52 using the Romanian surplus ammo. I just enjoy the TT33 more, better sights, trigger and easier takedown for cleaning the corrosive gunk out of.

--wally.
 
I own both as well. I love them both equally and each has its pros and cons.

For the CZ-52 I love the way it looks, more stability when I shoot it offhand, simple disassembly, its classic European qualities to it, and the collector value in it (one country, 200,000 made compared to the TT-33 made by many countries in the millions). I see the CZ-52 more as a range toy/collector's piece.

The TT-33 on the other hand I love the better ergonomics, slide release, larger ejection port, and Colt 1903/1911 qualities to it making it familiar to me. It is one that I would take in a life or death situation hands down over the CZ. Plus the added safety, although butt-ugly, functions well on mine and when it is in use along with the hammer safety that trigger isn't moving period. I would conceal carry it if I could.

And as already noted many times the 7.62x25 is a fantastic, sweet round and at a bargain the cheapest ammo available next to .22lr.
 
love the round!

Got a CZ52 w/ extra pin & 9mm barrell recently; it was what I would call like-new condition for anything that old. +1 on ejecting shells! Like the original equipment thumb safety... Actually prefer the looks to the Tokarev. Got a screamin' deal off AIMsurplus.com on ammo ($.10/round!). They are a b---h to disassemble without a vice, though: very strong spring that requires extra compression to move the rollers back to remove the barrel from the slide. Very col design, though. Will very likely make this my CC weapon if I ever get to do that...
 
so... does anyone own a PPsh41 in semi - as a companion?
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I do, its a pretty cool toy but not very practical, as the extra barrel and shroud length needed to make it not be an SBR make it very front heavy.

The drum that came with it and the stick mags have given no troubles, but so far I've been unsuccessful at getting a couple of other drums I picked up for $20 each to be reliable. Plinking with the 72 round drum is very hard to beat.

For an 7.62x25 carbine what I'd really like to see would be for 57Center (maker of the AR57 5.7x28 AR15 upper) modify their upper and magazine to use the 7.62x25 -- this would rock. I'd also think a version in .22Mag would actually make more sense that the 5.7x28 does.

I know someone over on AR15 forum is trying to make a 7.62x25 AR upper using PPSh 43 mags, but seems to me the PPSh 43 stick mags are less common than the PPSh 41 ones seem to be.

--wally.
 
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I love my Romanian Tokarev. Shoots great. Very accurate, and I love the power and how it snaps perfectly back on target. I put a brake on mine, but haven't had a chance to shoot it since doing it. I just love the gun overall.
 
My CZ 52 was the first gun that I bought and I still have it after 12 years and I've never had to replace anything on it.
 
My CZ-52 has been a real blessing during the "Great Pistol Ammo Shortage of 2009." I buy the corrosive stuff for a song and have been shooting it until the normal western commercial ammo becomes available again. I get perfect performance from the Sellier and Bellot. The military surplus has hard primers that require a second strike every once in a while.
 
What's a fair price to pay for a CZ-52 in VG+ condition in the current market? Not a collector piece, just a dependable occasional shooter. See them now and then at gun shows for @ $220. Prices in the online auctions trend a bit higher, adding in shipping plus receiving FFL fee runs them up to @300.
 
Are there modern reproductions of the PPsh41 carbine? Maybe Czech ones? I'd LOVE to have a counterpart to my CZ-52!
 
Militarygunsupply.com has semi PPSh41s, and semi PPS43s.

What I really want is to see someone make a modern pistol and pistol caliber carbine for the tokarev round.

7.62x25 Kel-Tec sub-2000 anyone? 7.62x25 CX4? PX4? etc. etc. etc.
 
I had a Polish M48 Tokarev and can kick myself dead in the hindparts for getting rid of it.

I also had a CZ52 and, although it shot well, it was butt fugly and had poor ergonomics.

The Tokarev (TT33) pistol is a powerful platform for the 7.62X25 round and is
well made in all variants.

The round is very powerful and I recall a story about the terrorist, Carlos the Jackal, shooting a French policeman while engaged in a floor brawl through his forehead and the round went through the second floor into the first floor.

Whether this is true or not is debateable.

It was said that he used a CZ52.

I do know that you can shoot through a car door with the round and caution should be used when shooting these pistols chambered for a submachinegun round as the 7.62X25 Tokarev.

Have a good backstop!

I'm looking to score another when I get some more "gun funds".
 
i love CZ-52, its ugly as heck but you know what its a fun thing to shoot. i open carry my CZ-52 its light and when on farm its fun to shoot at chipmunks and such lol
 
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