7.62x25 tokarev pistol

[leadcounsel]

This 7.62x25 is a notably hot round, and on www.theboxotruth.com it's the only handgun round to penetrate a kevlar helmet!

 

[ijosef]

Now I need to get one of these too. I wish I would've grabbed one when they were $150 on the surplus market, but couldawouldashoulda (wish I could've bought 1200 rounds of 7.62x39 milsurp when they were under $100, a nice AK when they were under $500, yadayadayadayada). I'm still going to get one, after my Glock 17, and my 1911, and... well, I just need to start shopping.

 

[Shadow 7D]

The beauty of the round is that 80 years ago they made a nice round like the .357 sig.....

And I can buy the gun and afew tins of rounds for what the nice sig or glock cost, and take it back country and drop down a steep trail and be reasonably sure that I haven't it'll still work..... It was after all built to used by a commi grunt. Oh and that new ding might help the resale value.

 

[jn1965]

Love mine. It is dead accurate at the distances I shoot it (15-30 feet) is very good at longer distances and has much less recoil than I thought it would have. It also makes a nice satisfying BANG! Unless somebody is shooting a .50 the TTC is the "WHATTHEF***DOYOUHAVETHERE?" gun on the range

I use both surplus Commie stuff and the goon non-corrosive Wolf ammo.

Nikolai is a Romanian TTC made in 1953 and looks to the best of my ability like it had never been fired. It is still stiff and being broken in.
The only thing I needed to do besides clean it was to put some glow paint on the sights. I have trouble with black blade sights and indoor ranges...

I paid around $200 for it or about 1/2 my pistol budget at the last gun show which allowed me to get a new shotgun too

Oh and the ammo is cheap with the Romanian stuff going for under a dime a round and the Wolf stuff going for $17/50



Pix of the gun, both types of ammo, The wolf stuff is on the left, the holster, cleaning rod and 2ndmag that came with it, and the new white glowy sights

 

[kbolt]

pix of my tok

 

[leadcounsel]

I do know that you can shoot through a car door with the round and caution should be used when shooting these pistols chambered for a submachinegun round as the 7.62X25 Tokarev.

Anyone have opinions of the Romanian Toks at $230? Quality compared to the others?

 

[navyretired 1]

I've got 2 Romy TT type and 2 CZ 52 one of each is now 9MM and I love them all. the CZ 52 is lots of fun and is really really loud in 7.62X25. The Range Safety officer always heads in my direction when I fire either Tok caliber gun. He thought I was shooting a Thompson Center Contender with rifle caliber until he saw them.
I think the CZ is a lot more fun to shoot as its heavier and easier to control. It is definitly a 100 yd gun.
If you think the CZ52 is complicated you should take a CZ82 apart. 83 PARTS if I remember right.

 

[Teapot]

A Tokarev (Nrinco Model 54 in 7.62x25 in this case) with two spare magazines filled with Czech bxn53 steel-jacketed rounds and a box of 40 of the same on one's bedside table equal a good nights rest.

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[Fastcast]

Sweet pic.....Love the old time feel with the wind up alarm clock but the CD spoils it just a bit.

BTW.....To navyretired 1....The CZ82 has 56 parts, including all mag parts.

 

[jojo200517]

Does anyone make decent self defense ammo in this caliber or is it all FMJ? I don't know how this round would feed with hollow points but if that was an issue the EFMJ style bullets would be nice.

Edit: may be Romanian or Polish TT-33's are $219.99 in centerfire systems flyer i just got

 

[Fastcast]

Does anyone make decent self defense ammo in this caliber or is it all FMJ? I don't know how this round would feed with hollow points but if that was an issue the EFMJ style bullets would be nice.

Edit: may be Romanian or Polish TT-33's are $219.99 in centerfire systems flyer i just got

Wolf makes HP in 7.62x25 and most every report you hear says they function flawlessly, actually expand like they should and do very wicked things to whatever they hit.

Unfortunately they always seem to be out of stock but "coming soon".....I've had a few links saved for quite awhile but they're still coming. Apparently later, than sooner.

BTW.....Reed's ammunition mixes up some sweet sounding loads and are accepting back orders.

http://shop.reedsammo.com/category.sc?categoryId=14

 

[Mp7]

i believe a glock in TT would sell.

as well as a hipoint carbine ...

 

[Fiv3r]

I absolutely adore my CZ-52. I shoot it better than any other handgun I own

I took it to the range a few weeks ago where a couple of guys had rented the lanes next to me. They were popping off 9mm CM from 5 yards as fast as possible for some reason poppopopopopopopopopopopopopop

They stop to reload and KER-PLOW {fireball} They lean back and look at what I'm shooting. Brass casing ricocheting off the stall It reminded me...well, remember that scene in RoboCop when Murphy first goes to the gun range with all the cops shooting their .38's and he pulls out that monstrous burst fire?

Love that gun. Favorite for truck and out doors carry

 

[Onmilo]

I like my Romanian Cugir TTC a whole lot more since I got rid of the import safety.


I was to the point of getting rid of this gun until I did something about that darned safety.

 

[gandog56]

I have a CZ52. Hate the trigger, love the people's heads turning to see what the heck I'm firing at the range. Durned gun is real dependable, but is a little long and heavy for a carry weapon. Did I mention the trigger pull was atrocious?

 

[orbitup]

I had a CZ52 years ago. It was fun to take out plinking (especially at night). The gun was really big for a gun that only holds 7 rounds.

Wish I had it back though.

 

[jojo200517]

I like my Romanian Cugir TTC a whole lot more since I got rid of the import safety.

I was to the point of getting rid of this gun until I did something about that darned safety.

For someone who doesn't have one but thinks about putting it on the list of "need to get one of those" can someone elaborate about this "import safety"?

 

[wally]

For someone who doesn't have one but thinks about putting it on the list of "need to get one of those" can someone elaborate about this "import safety"?

The ones on the Chinese Toks gets in the way, but the ones on the Romanian or Polish you can just ignore them and not worry about it.

Go for it, get in on the cheap ammo fun before it all drys up.

--wally.

 

[WardenWolf]

Wolf makes HP in 7.62x25 and most every report you hear says they function flawlessly, actually expand like they should and do very wicked things to whatever they hit.

Unfortunately they always seem to be out of stock but "coming soon".....I've had a few links saved for quite awhile but they're still coming. Apparently later, than sooner.

BTW.....Reed's ammunition mixes up some sweet sounding loads and are accepting back orders.

http://shop.reedsammo.com/category.sc?categoryId=14

I managed to source a box of the Wolf hollowpoints a while back. Don't remember where; I just remember they weren't cheap ($35 after shipping). I've got the first magazine loaded with Wolf hollowpoints, and the second loaded with S&B FMJ. My Tokarev is a Romanian model from 1953 that I've fitted with a compensator. Very nice, accurate pistol. I used it to qualify for my CCW.

 

[GBExpat]

For someone who doesn't have one but thinks about putting it on the list of "need to get one of those" can someone elaborate about this "import safety"?

The "safety", as designed on the TT pistols is, apparently, the half-cock hammer position. That is not good enough for the Feds, so these pistols must be retro-fitted with a separate safety lever prior to importation to the US.

 

[WardenWolf]

I honestly do not mind the import safety on mine. It works well and I would have no issues carrying my Tokarev cocked and locked. Keep in mind that the half-cock position would act as added insurance in the event that the low-profile hammer is struck hard enough to defeat the primary cocking lugs, so there is honestly no real safety difference between this gun and a 1911 as long as the trigger block safety works reliably.

 

[Onmilo]

I will STRONGLY recommend you NOT carry any Tokarev with a chambered round whether it has a safety or not.

With the only exception possibly being the Yugoslavian made guns with the Yugoslavian retro fitted safety lever behind the grip, NONE of the import safeties block the hammer/sear/firing pin contact.
Not sure if the Yugoslavian does as I have not had the opportunity to inspect one of these yet but this safety was incorporated by the Yugoslavian authorities on issue pistols and it is one of the best designs out there from what I have gathered so far, however, NONE of the Tokarevs incorporate a firing pin lock, of this I am certain, not the commercial imports in all their variations, not even the Yugoslavian made version..

The rear mounted safety on my Chinese Tokarev had a nasty habit of engaging during the slide cycle which will stop the gun cold and I believe it contributed to the eventual breakage of the disconnector on my gun.

Drop any of these guns and chances are it will fire if the half cock safety notch shears and Tokarevs were made as combat pistols so the quality of the half cock notch may be dubious enough to make this a very real possibility.
Because there is no firing pin lock safety, carrying these pistols chamber loaded and the hammer at rest or set at half cock is even more dangerous to the shooter and bystanders.

The Tokarev has always been intended to be carried chamber empty and cycled when shooting was immediately anticipated.
The import safeties do nothing but provide a false sense of security.
This is how my pistol looked with the safety in place.

This safety bound up on the magazines making them very difficult to remove and interfered with the trigger making reset a sometimes it will and sometimes it won't proposition, removing the safety solved those issues.
The slide stop was altered to clear the safety lever by milling and was apparently bent so the gun would not reliably lock back on the last shot and it also battered up the slide stop notch on the slide proper.
Recutting the stop notch and replacing the slide stop with an unaltered Chinese made version cured that issue.

The gun is now 100% reliable and quite suprisingly accurate without the goofy safety in place.
It is now one of my favorite pleasure shooting pistols. and to think, I almost dumped it as a frustrating, not worth the trouble, dog before I got rid of the keep me oh so safe safety.

Tokarevs never had a safety, adding one does not make the gun any "safer" and it certainly does not improve the reliability of what is one of the most reliable semi auto handguns ever made, in fact, these safeties hinder the guns with the only exception being that Yugo M57 safety and I believe that safety was added to allow the gun to be carried cocked and locked condition one giving the loaded handgun ten rounds immediately available, M57s have nine round magazines as opposed to the regular TT33 payload of eight in the magazine, it certainly didn't make the gun much if any safer, but it did allow a larger payload and faster immediate operation of the pistol.
The import safeties are, in my most humble opinion, a feel good abomination and the only good they serve is to allow the guns to be imported into the US bypassing the overcomplicated requirements demanded by an ill informed governing body.
While not perfect, and really, what is?,,
The unaltered Tokarev is a far better pistol than many people may realize.

 

[Teapot]

Fall or Spring day with Alumahide skinned Tok and a Winters Day in the second (I left it sitting out for 5 hours before I shot it to see if the cold would negatively affect it: it didn't).

 

[PT1911]

well, I just took about 5 minutes to remove the useless safety from my tt33. Perhaps it is my imagination, but it already feels better. It was MUCH easier than I expected... in other words, disassemble, slide this, and push here... the pin was so grimed with grease it didnt even try to run away like I expected.

Well, of course now there is a hole in each side of my gun... guess i may just have to experiment with some of the plugging options....

Any input?

 

[harmon rabb]

I have a romanian tokarev. Despite having the worthless import safety, it has functioned flawlessly since day 1. I have a few thousand rounds through it, without a single failure.

Meanwhile, my glock and my sig have stovepiped (once, each).