7mm-08: Across the board as good as 30-06?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by mshootnit, May 11, 2017.

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  1. VThillman

    VThillman Member

    Jan 15, 2015
    Southeastern Vermont
    No. Nor anywhere else. It's the big end of your board that sinks you.
  2. mshootnit

    mshootnit Member

    Feb 4, 2007
    Heres another ballistics comparison. 139gr. 7mm-08, and 165gr. 30-06.
    7mm-08 139 gr. SST 2850 fps muzzle. 1.5 sight height, 200 yd zero. .486 BC .246 SD
    @300 yd. Velocity 2306 fps, 1654 ft lb -7.4" drop.

    30-06 165 gr. 2850 fps muzzle. 1.5 sight height, 200 yd zero. .447 BC .248 SD
    @300 yd. Velocity 2262 fps, 1875 ft lb -7.5" drop.
  3. natman

    natman Member

    Feb 11, 2007
    There's a lot of overlap. No deer or antelope is going to be able to tell the difference. The 30-06 does have a slight advantage on the heavy stuff, so if you're shooting something that is a bit of a stretch for the 30-06, like big bears, it's even a bigger stretch for the 7mm-08. IMO stretching a cartridge is not a good idea against dangerous game.

    No, I wouldn't take a 7mm-08 to Alaska as my do everything rifle, no matter what it was loaded with.
  4. Haxby

    Haxby Member

    Jan 15, 2011
    Well, it was designed in about 1890. It was just 6mm longer then.

    Oh, come on. I just spent almost 2 full minutes researching this, and I only came up with 49.
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  5. GooseGestapo

    GooseGestapo Member

    Jan 6, 2003
    I've got both, killed a lot of deer with both.
    Difference is the "platform " or rifle they're in.
    My little Rem Mod-7, in 7mm08 is a darling. Its 6" shorter than my Colt LtRifle '06. However, the Colt is hands down more accurate (3/4moa vs 2moa), and with a 180gr bullet going the same speed as a 150gr from the 7-08, has just a bit more "horse power". For Moose or bear, I'd go with the '06; deer or elk, I like the compact little Remington. Both weigh ~7lbs, but the 24" bbl of the '06 gives it a bit more punch. Ok where/when it's needed.
    Pick the rifle, then pick the cartridge.
    I own 4 .30/06, and a 7mm-08. I don't own a .308!, but I do have 3 .30/30's, a 300RUM, and a .300BO, and a .30Carbine... Different niches, different rifles...
  6. jim in Anchorage

    jim in Anchorage Member

    Feb 28, 2009
    Interesting. I have shot many caribou with the 30-06 and they where always one shot instant kills. With a full bullet pass though at up to 300 yards.
  7. someguy2800

    someguy2800 Member

    Sep 16, 2015
    Now start with wildcats and obsolete cartridges! .30-338, .338/30, 309 jdj, 7mm bullberry, 303/270, etc... it's almost infinite, and most of them pointless
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  8. Elkins45

    Elkins45 Member

    Dec 25, 2009
    Northern KY
    Since we're considering "across the board" then 06 wins due to versatility. Sometimes there's just no substitute for momentum, and a big ol' 220 grain 30 caliber RN makes more of it than anything you can find to push down a 7mm bore.

    If we're just talking shooting deer then the difference is slight enough that a nice short action rifle could tip my scales in favor of the 7-08.
  9. biggameballs

    biggameballs Member

    Oct 22, 2007
    I often wonder why people spend so much time debating differnt calibers and numbers on paper. You shoot anything with a high power rifle and hit it where you're supposed to and it's going to die. Projectile choice is much more important then caliber. The most important thing is being able to shoot.
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  10. LoonWulf
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    LoonWulf Contributing Member

    Jul 3, 2010
    ^ cause we can, gives us something to argue about.
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  11. Varminterror

    Varminterror Member

    Jul 17, 2016
    I've been back to Canada, chasing caribou, after what I considered to be a near failure by the 7-08, but not with the 30-06. Your experience confirms my expectation, however. As I said before, despite the advantage for SD for the 7mm bullet, there's a tangible difference between 2200-2500ft.lbs. and 2800-3000ft.lbs. It's close, but there ARE game species out there which will test that difference. I believe caribou to be one of those species. I've taken elk with both 30-06 and 7-08, and given the choice (which I get every couple of years), I don't reach for the 7-08.

    For many, many applications, the two are interchangeable, but there does come a morning where Milo fails to pick up the calf. Equally, going the other direction, there are game animals where the 30-06 really does become "too big," while the 7-08 remains to shine.

    Mind you, all of this is said with the 7-08 being one of, if not my favorite centerfire rifle cartridges of all time.
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  12. Llama Bob

    Llama Bob member

    Feb 25, 2016
    I think that's reasonable. The 7mm-08 can be loaded with heavy projectiles to go after elk (if your barrel is twisted for it) but it's not a first choice.
  13. Sarge7402

    Sarge7402 Member

    Sep 2, 2013
    One thing no one has brought up is versatility. I've got a $20 adapter that allows me to shoot any .32 caliber round out of my 30-'06. (.32 S&W up thru the .327 Magnum. I've also got a navy sleeve that allows me to fire safely .308 ammo in either of my two 30-'06's.
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