Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by mshootnit, May 11, 2017.
No. Nor anywhere else. It's the big end of your board that sinks you.
7mm-08 139 gr. SST 2850 fps muzzle. 1.5 sight height, 200 yd zero. .486 BC .246 SD
@300 yd. Velocity 2306 fps, 1654 ft lb -7.4" drop.
30-06 165 gr. 2850 fps muzzle. 1.5 sight height, 200 yd zero. .447 BC .248 SD
@300 yd. Velocity 2262 fps, 1875 ft lb -7.5" drop.
No, I wouldn't take a 7mm-08 to Alaska as my do everything rifle, no matter what it was loaded with.
Well, it was designed in about 1890. It was just 6mm longer then.
Oh, come on. I just spent almost 2 full minutes researching this, and I only came up with 49.
Difference is the "platform " or rifle they're in.
My little Rem Mod-7, in 7mm08 is a darling. Its 6" shorter than my Colt LtRifle '06. However, the Colt is hands down more accurate (3/4moa vs 2moa), and with a 180gr bullet going the same speed as a 150gr from the 7-08, has just a bit more "horse power". For Moose or bear, I'd go with the '06; deer or elk, I like the compact little Remington. Both weigh ~7lbs, but the 24" bbl of the '06 gives it a bit more punch. Ok where/when it's needed.
Pick the rifle, then pick the cartridge.
I own 4 .30/06, and a 7mm-08. I don't own a .308!, but I do have 3 .30/30's, a 300RUM, and a .300BO, and a .30Carbine... Different niches, different rifles...
Interesting. I have shot many caribou with the 30-06 and they where always one shot instant kills. With a full bullet pass though at up to 300 yards.
Now start with wildcats and obsolete cartridges! .30-338, .338/30, 309 jdj, 7mm bullberry, 303/270, etc... it's almost infinite, and most of them pointless
If we're just talking shooting deer then the difference is slight enough that a nice short action rifle could tip my scales in favor of the 7-08.
I often wonder why people spend so much time debating differnt calibers and numbers on paper. You shoot anything with a high power rifle and hit it where you're supposed to and it's going to die. Projectile choice is much more important then caliber. The most important thing is being able to shoot.
I've been back to Canada, chasing caribou, after what I considered to be a near failure by the 7-08, but not with the 30-06. Your experience confirms my expectation, however. As I said before, despite the advantage for SD for the 7mm bullet, there's a tangible difference between 2200-2500ft.lbs. and 2800-3000ft.lbs. It's close, but there ARE game species out there which will test that difference. I believe caribou to be one of those species. I've taken elk with both 30-06 and 7-08, and given the choice (which I get every couple of years), I don't reach for the 7-08.
For many, many applications, the two are interchangeable, but there does come a morning where Milo fails to pick up the calf. Equally, going the other direction, there are game animals where the 30-06 really does become "too big," while the 7-08 remains to shine.
Mind you, all of this is said with the 7-08 being one of, if not my favorite centerfire rifle cartridges of all time.
I think that's reasonable. The 7mm-08 can be loaded with heavy projectiles to go after elk (if your barrel is twisted for it) but it's not a first choice.
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