9 mm FMJ Point Blank Gunshot Wound (Warning - GRAPHIC PICS!!)

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  1. Funderb

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    You're an idiot.
    haha!
    Just kidding! You are NOT an idiot, you just made a mistake that is easy to make.
    Sorry about your hand, brotha. I hope you heal well, and thanks a lot for the important reminder.
     
  2. gbran

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    I still feel comfortable with my Glocks, but I'll remember these pics every time I strip my Glocks (and others).
     
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  4. Crow1108

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    Indeed. I remember the post a few months back about the guy who carried his makarov in a smart carry and had an accidental discharge :eek:

    kda: Welcome to the forums. Hope ya get all healed up. Glad it wasn't alot worse.
     
  5. Foofles

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    Yikes... I'm glad you're more or less alright and I hope the hand heals well!

    Thank you for being brave enough to present another reinforcement to how fundamental proper safety is.
     
  6. kda

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    Yes, thanks. I did miss all the bones. They didn't stitch it closed,
    too much chance for infection and they wanted it to heal from the
    inside out. So it went "undressed" and un-stitched ... full open air
    exposure to the open wound from day one. I was told to soak it 30
    minutes twice a day in Hydrogen Peroxide for the first month to keep it
    clean and cleaned out. That seemed to work.

    At the emergency room, they poured disinfectant all over the wound,
    then used large syringe to force saline (salt water) through the wound
    and make sure it was flushed out clean. Also an I.V. to restore my body
    fluid levels and get my blood pressure back up over 50 ... and I was
    set to go home.

    At night, I'd wrap it loosely with bandages to keep the bed sheets
    clean ... didn't seem to hinder healing.

    I covered that hand with a rubber glove when showering and took
    a course of prescribed antibiotics for seven days. Hope this
    helps answer your questions, asked and not yet asked. I figured
    as a med, you might be interested in the whole bit. :)
     
  7. daorhgih

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    "Lucky/ Unlucky" shot w a Glock

    The following incident prompted me to whittle a small "extra-safety" device out of a bottle-cap, for my just newly acquired G-21: victim was showing off his new "G" at a local lumber-yard, and ended (literally) his adventure for that day, by stowing the weapon inside his waistband, in what he assumed was a safe "appendix-carry." The little-trigger and the big-trigger both simultaneously got stroked by a belt-loop, and he shot his off-side knee-cap in-half. He was in agony, but quipped, "I'm sure glad I'm already circumcised!" My "milk-jug safety" device clips firmly into the trigger-guard, both ahead of and behind the triggers. Can be instantly snapped out, but hard to figger out if one is not aware it's there. I'm one-upping Gaston on this one.
     
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  8. kda

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    Karen ... EXCELLENT POST Absolutely describes what I believe happened in this case and you put it so very well ... much better that I have been able to do. Very astute observation. Thanks!
     
  9. ChCx2744

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    They say experience is the best teacher.
     
  10. Gamera

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    That happened to my cousin. He was showing someone his 92f, and the first thing the guy did was pull the trigger. There's a nice 9mm hole in his floor now...
     
  11. george29

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    I hear of people carrying their double-action revolvers in the pocket w/o a holster that properly covers the trigger guard. I also hear of people that Mexican carry double-action revolvers and DAO semi's with one in the spout. There are reasons that some days I truly understand the Anti's, there are no idiot proof guns and you can't fix stupid or replace a life or limb lost to VDP's (very dumb people). I spent 10 years in uniform and carried a BHP in condition 3 for the entire 10 years, this included the very worst of neighborhoods one can imagine. Those that carried in anything but condition 3 and those that carried Glocks were more prone to AD's. I have carried some type of handgun for the last 30 years, and I obey the first unwritten rule which is Don't unnecessarily touch your gun (or your weapon :D). Here are the rest http://billstclair.com/safetyrules.html
     
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  12. Dallas Jack

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    So you assert that "most" guns were lever action. I thought we were talking handguns here. OK I will admit revolvers and lever actions didn't have safeties. Semi autos (rifles and pistols), pumps, and bolt actions had safeties. Also IIRC exposed hammer lever actions had a half cock safety. Their are a few exceptions such as single shot longuns both rifles and shotguns and possibly some derringers.

    I stand by my statement "False"

    If you have anything else to say about safeties start a new thread.

    Glad the OP is alright.
    Dallas Jack
     
  13. Boba Fett

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    I couldn't agree more. It hasn't happened to me either and it never will.
     
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    this has me wondering if it happens less to people that already know it never will?
     
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    Hope the hand heals up soon and those pics grossed out the Wife! Dang it folks never put your hand infront of the barrel of a gun if your going to pull the trigger.
     
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    That's actually a good idea.... is there any chance of ricochet at that close range? I've never shot a bullet into a sand bucket (nor intend to) but it does sound like a good idea.

    Really? What did you do if you ever thought you were going to need it? Afterwards did you clear it and put it back in condition 3? If by Blue uniform you mean LEO that doesn't sound practical. Condition 3 is chamber empty right? I've never heard of an LEO being condition 3.
     
  17. george29

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    Watch this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvytXEjoCcE&feature=related

    One goes from condition 3 to condition 0 only when the threat is real, once the threat is over I would put my BHP back into condition 3. If you never heard of LEO's carrying condition 3, have you heard of LEO's AD/ND's? The whole reason the great majority of LEO's carry DAO's is to lessen the chance of an AD/ND whilst staying in condition 0 (no condition 1 for a Glock).
    Don't take examples from LEO's as being the ultimate example of anything weapon related (or legal for that matter).
     
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    I won't be polite...allowing the muzzle of your weapon to point at any part of your anatomy or anything you don't want to destroy, and pulling the trigger, is just plain stupid...Even after checking the chamber. I can't even conceive of doing that.
    My firearms are treated as if loaded at all times. If I set a firearm down fully unloaded, and pick it up ten minutes later, I check the chamber first thing.
     
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    Holy Flurking Schnitt! That looks like it HURTS!!! Sure glad it wasn't any worse! This thread has prompted me to create a "gsw's" folder in my photo collection, and these are the first two. I need to start finding others and save 'em too. My 12 y.o. grandson loves to go shooting with me, and he's very safe with guns. The first thing I showed him was what they will do to water-filled jugs and soda cans, and he took it to heart. But I want to show him a collection of real blood and gore injuries to drive home the point.
     
  20. notbubba

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    Lucky it was a 9mm, a .45 would have taken your arm off. :D


    JOKE #2:
    So you only had a couple a hunderd dollars in doctor bills.
    :rolleyes:
     
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    Several years ago I had one Negligent Discharge with a firearm and guess what......it was with a Glock, and it wasn't related to disassembly. It was due to my stupidity, period. Fortunately I heeded to the other safety measures by having the gun pointed in a safe direction and at something that I could afford to destroy (one of my wife's shoes......she has hundreds of pairs so it didn't make much of a difference:D).

    What you don't seem to understand is that guns don't make mistakes. People make mistakes with guns. It is up to you, the operator, to adhere to basic safety rules especially when handling a firearm. Glock forces you to make sure that the chamber is empty before you disassemble the gun, of which you're supposed to do anyway so, what's the big deal? Are you insinuating that Glock should redesign their guns so that the slide can be removed with a round still in the chamber? How would this be safer than forcing you to do what you're supposed to do to begin with?

    When pulling the trigger of a firearm either you want a round in the chamber or you don't. Why is this so hard to understand?
     
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    Well, to be fair, "most" guns prior to the '70s could be said to be revolvers, which don't (usually) have safeties.
    Oh, yeah, I know, Colt 1911 (safety ++!!) Walther PP & PPK (safety) etc.

    I'm stretching a point, OK?;)

    Although I agree with the sentiment that you ought not disdain semiautos which "lack" safeties. I have a Glock 19, a Smith & Wesson M&P 40, and XD 45, which lack the traditional safety (the XD has the 1911-like spring bar the web of the hand seats when grasped correctly). I also have a Walther PP and a Walther P22, both have safeties. Also, I own revolvers, none of which have safeties.
    The only REAL safety is the mush betwixt the ears.

    KDA, sorry to hear about your injury and I hope you heal quickly.
     
  23. Flyboy

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    Funny, I'm pretty sure the 1911 pattern predates 1970 (in fact, I think it is from sometime near...um...1911), and it has a both a manual safety and a passive (grip) safety. M1, M1903, both with safeties. Mausers, manual safety. Ditto with the Mosin-Nagant. Colt 1903, same as the 1911.

    But your .30-30's don't have them, so they must be representative of the majority ("most") of firearms. Forms a great basis for your screed against "anti-male propaganda." Tell me, does "anti-male" extend to us when we tell you not to shoot your neighbor's dogs? Are we too sissified for you?
     
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    Stooopid advice from a Tupper-gun site.

    Hafta research it a bit, but I read an instruction process on how to carry a G-gun with one in the chamber, but gun NOT cocked. Reasoning was that it was quicker to jack the slide only ⅜ of an inch instead of the whole rack-it-all-the-way-back. The procedure was to dismantle the whole top end, and then assemble it with a round sitting on the firing-pin face and not cocking the mechanism. Insanity.
     
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    "they depend on that "safety" lever instead of using their brain."

    Truth. Your brain IS THE SAFETY at all times. I can see pulling the trigger on a gun I was "sure" was empty. I can't see pulling the trigger on a gun I am sure is empty with ANY part of me in front of the muzzle. That's the part I don't get when I read of these ADs. Me, even if I put one of my guns down on a table I just cleaned and know it's empty as sure as a person can know, if it's pointing at me, I will move the gun or move myself. It's just a habit, but I wont even allow myself to be swept by my own empty guns.

    Gun safety is a combination of repetition that NEVER ends up being repetition + apathy, which is human nature.

    Never say never. Those who say it can "never" happen to them have already lost an essential component of gun safety, which is humility around guns.

    Complacency kills.
     
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