Miami_JBT
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1990s era single-stack.45s
Smith & Wesson Model 4566
SIG Sauer P220
Colt Model 1991A1 Series 80
Ruger KP90DC
90s era single-stack .45s, which would you choose?
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1990s era single-stack.45s
Smith & Wesson Model 4566
SIG Sauer P220
Colt Model 1991A1 Series 80
Ruger KP90DC
NIGHTLORD40K
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Double Eagle? 
Dave DeLaurant
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I like my 1911s but covet my friend Bob's two .45 SIG-Sauers.
Demi-human
It’s like being human, but less so…
Double Eagle?
Maybe a MKI Eagle in .357 Mag?
And also, “What?! No, Bren Ten?!”
Personally, I’ll take a 645 to go with my baby blue full length linen jacket, gold chain and “wife beater.”
Corpral_Agarn
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P220 for me.
It's the model that got me started into real deal pistol shooting
It's the model that got me started into real deal pistol shooting
Quanah
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someguy2800
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The only one of those 4 I've ever shot is the 1911, but I've always wanted to try a P220. If I had to carry one of those it would probably be the P220 or a lightweight commander.
The only one of those 4 I've ever shot is the 1911, but I've always wanted to try a P220. If I had to carry one of those it would probably be the P220 or a lightweight commander.
.45Coltguy
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What!? No mention of Springfield 1911-A1 mil-spec?
zaitcev
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We don't know what you want to use it for, so SIG P220 wins easily.
A Colt 1911 was the thing to run if you were to attend the Gunsite academy. But it's a single action gun. I'd carry it in a military style holster out on the farm, but it's not a do-it-all gun. It's a close second though!
A Kahr (not included) was very forward looking, but my P45 was a dumpster fire (a 2008 production too, I don't think the 90s versions were any better -- in fact I'm not sure they existed). If Kahr actually worked, it could beat out the SIG, that's how revolutionary a plastic gun was. I do suspect though that it only came at the very tail of the period. Kahr started out with 9mm metal frame guns, which were very nice, but they never had a .45 version.
The 90s era Spanish guns look intriguing, but they are very niche.
The Ruger is solid, but I never liked its controls.
The Smith always was an also-run. And, the 90s were the years of the AWB and absolute cuckery by S&W. The boycott was there for legitimate reasons.
A Colt 1911 was the thing to run if you were to attend the Gunsite academy. But it's a single action gun. I'd carry it in a military style holster out on the farm, but it's not a do-it-all gun. It's a close second though!
A Kahr (not included) was very forward looking, but my P45 was a dumpster fire (a 2008 production too, I don't think the 90s versions were any better -- in fact I'm not sure they existed). If Kahr actually worked, it could beat out the SIG, that's how revolutionary a plastic gun was. I do suspect though that it only came at the very tail of the period. Kahr started out with 9mm metal frame guns, which were very nice, but they never had a .45 version.
The 90s era Spanish guns look intriguing, but they are very niche.
The Ruger is solid, but I never liked its controls.
The Smith always was an also-run. And, the 90s were the years of the AWB and absolute cuckery by S&W. The boycott was there for legitimate reasons.
chicharrones
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Except for the 1991 roll mark, what makes a 1911 series 80 a '90s era gun? I thought 1911s covered nearly the entire 20th century, not just a single decade?
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I'd probably go with the Colt.
Have a P90. Utilitarian. "Meh". I still think something about finding a modern holster for it.
Shot a SIG like that once. Felt like shooting the Ruger.
No experience with the Smith.
Have a P90. Utilitarian. "Meh". I still think something about finding a modern holster for it.
Shot a SIG like that once. Felt like shooting the Ruger.
No experience with the Smith.
chicharrones
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If I can vote outside the box, I actually own one of these.
From - https://eu.glock.com/en/Explore-GLOCK/GLOCK-History
From - https://eu.glock.com/en/Explore-GLOCK/GLOCK-History
someguy2800
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You are right, looks like the P45 didn't go into production till 2005. I had a new CW45 bought new in like 2015 which was not stellar on reliability by my current one bought new a couple years ago runs good.
Source below
Kahr Arms P45 Pistol - Kahr Arms - A leader in technology and innovation
Kahr’s newest model offers .45 ACP power in a lightweight, compact package. POLICE, June 2006, p. 58, 60, 62 – 63 By Mike Detty Kahr’s new P45 (.45 ACP) offers a lot of power in a compact pistol. It’s designed for concealed and off-duty carry. The P45 is easy to disassemble and even easier to […]
www.kahr.com
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These are what I was carrying in the late 90's. Had switched over to the P220 after having had enough of fiddling/dealing with the 1911's, even the Colts. Never regretted the switch, either.
JTQ
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I'd choose the 1911. By the 1990's it was pretty mature.
I have a late 1980's 4506 and moved to the 1911 because the 1911 just feels more sleek than what I consider the relatively cumbersome 4506.
The P220 has been through a couple of mag iterations and also slide and extractor versions. While I think their current mags are probably pretty good and most likely the equal of today's best 1911 mags, I'm not sure SIG is really sure if the best extractor is a long or short one. Those 90's era P220's had a folded slide (and an internal extractor that they moved on from) and you can see the pin for the pinned in breach face that I'm pretty sure even SIG doesn't think was a particularly good design.
The P90 while undoubtedly durable (especially for an aluminum framed gun) and accurate, they are a little crude, and Ruger never really upgraded the P90, but instead moved development to the P97 and P345, that actually may not have been better guns than the P90.
I have a late 1980's 4506 and moved to the 1911 because the 1911 just feels more sleek than what I consider the relatively cumbersome 4506.
The P220 has been through a couple of mag iterations and also slide and extractor versions. While I think their current mags are probably pretty good and most likely the equal of today's best 1911 mags, I'm not sure SIG is really sure if the best extractor is a long or short one. Those 90's era P220's had a folded slide (and an internal extractor that they moved on from) and you can see the pin for the pinned in breach face that I'm pretty sure even SIG doesn't think was a particularly good design.
The P90 while undoubtedly durable (especially for an aluminum framed gun) and accurate, they are a little crude, and Ruger never really upgraded the P90, but instead moved development to the P97 and P345, that actually may not have been better guns than the P90.
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hso
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I'd carry any of them since they all point the same and have the same manual of arms.
Dan-O
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The good old pinkie pincher. I have one too. Love it.
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I had a 4506 for a hot minute, just to say I had a 3rd gen S&W auto and it was huge. Too tall, bore was very high.
The sig is just too wide in the slide for the capacity, and the Ruger is also too wide.
I'll take the 1911A1 with its comparatively slim width, and give it slim grips, short trigger, and flat MSH. It's the only .45 on the list that fits my small hands
Thise internal locking lugs make a big difference in width
The sig is just too wide in the slide for the capacity, and the Ruger is also too wide.
I'll take the 1911A1 with its comparatively slim width, and give it slim grips, short trigger, and flat MSH. It's the only .45 on the list that fits my small hands
Thise internal locking lugs make a big difference in width
WestKentucky
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90s and 45acp?
Gotta be the sig. the S&W guns were popular but the 45s just aren’t as nice as the smaller calibers. The 1911s are nice enough but the modernization attempts were not the greatest. The rugers are known to be functional but lackluster.
The greatest 45 of the 90s though, arguably would be one of the subguns, and the most interesting to me would be a marlin camp 45
Gotta be the sig. the S&W guns were popular but the 45s just aren’t as nice as the smaller calibers. The 1911s are nice enough but the modernization attempts were not the greatest. The rugers are known to be functional but lackluster.
The greatest 45 of the 90s though, arguably would be one of the subguns, and the most interesting to me would be a marlin camp 45
1KPerDay
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Sig every time.
