92 Winchesters, again

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  1. halfmoonclip

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    Did get a Rossi R92, and can't say I'm that unhappy with it.
    But I also have a Winchester/Miroku '73, which is simply a work of art.
    Thinking of going a little higher end '92, in .45 Colt.
    I'm finding Miroku/Winchesters, and Chiappas.
    The Chiappas are slightly less expensive, and available in my really preferred 16" barrel.
    What says the crew? How is the quality on the Chiappas?
    Anyone know if both the Win and the Chiappa are tapped on the wrist of the stock, for a tang sight?
    Thanks in advance,
    Moon
     
  2. NorthBorder

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    Don't have a Chiappa lever gun but I do have a couple of Miroku Winnies, a '73 and '92. My '73 wears a tang mounted sight however the 92 has a tang safety so I don't see how a tang sight would be mounted.
     
  3. Griffen

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    I have two Miroku Winchester 92’s, both with tang safeties and both with Marbles tang sights. Marbles makes one specifically for the tang safety 92’s. They work very well and I am pleased with the install and the performance.

    There are no taps for them, just the stock screw and a drill and tap operation.
     
  4. halfmoonclip

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    Griffen, so we're clear, the Win is all ready to accept the screws for the tang sight?
    I've drilled and tapped for several tang sights, and it's gone really well. But it's not my favorite job; a wandering drill center, or a broken tap, can really take the gloss off your day.
    I'm leaning toward the Win/Miroku, even tho' the tang safety kind of offends me.
    Thnx,
    Moon
     
  5. Griffen

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    Both of my Winchester’s are in 45 Colt. That is a grand old round that is really fun to shoot. It’s a reloader’s dream and the 92’s are capable of some really stout loads if you care to use them. I just developed one for pistol that matches the original spec and use it in revolver, carbine, and rifle. The performance is excellent in each.

    Of course, you need a couple of New Vaqueros, an 1858 Remington conversion, and an 1872 Open top to shoot as well! :)
     
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  6. Griffen

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    The Winchester is NOT drilled and tapped for the tang sight. It uses the stock removal screw on one side and you will need to drill and tap the other side screw for the tang sight.

    Yeah, I don’t like the tang safety either, but I like the quality of the Winchester rifle.
     
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  7. Jackal1

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    I've researched this topic quite a bit recently. I do not have a Winchester 1892 but have been looking at buying one.

    My research indicates some (not all) of the current manufacture Win1892's have a 2nd smaller tang hole drilled for compatibility with the "Marble's Tang Peep Sight Winchester 1892 With Tang Safety, Blue, Manufacturer Part # 9802".

    Two pictures are attached showing the 1-screw vs 2-screw tang differences.
     

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  8. Griffen

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    Thanks, Jackal1, I believe you are correct. Some of the latest versions may be drilled and tapped for a tang sight. Mine are not. This could make adding a tang sight a breeze.
     
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  9. PapaG

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    My original 1892 rifle which my brother and I bought in the sixties and had converted to .357 has no hole for a tang sight. I'm going to mount one, though, as my eyes, at 78, no longer favor the atrocious full buckhorn.
     
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  10. Cowhide Cliff

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    If it means anything the Chiappa is the closest to the original Winchester 92 in it's design and features. Personally for what the Miroku cost for the features and quality I feel you get to the point you're better off to just bite the bullet and buy an original. Even a well used original in good function is a better gun than any of the new reproductions.
     
  11. Cowhide Cliff

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    What caliber was it for you to convert it to 357?
     
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    It wasn't me but the usual basis for conversion to .357 was a .32-20 or .25-20.
    It took care to get the straight case to feed well.
     
  13. PapaG

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    Should have said rebarreled as it was a shot out 38-40.
     
  14. halfmoonclip

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    PapaG, you will love the tang sight. I'm younger, but not much, and peeps have kept me shooting iron sights. A late buddy gave me a 19th Century Lyman from his junk box; drilled and tapped a Rossi 16" Gallery Gun, and have been hooked ever since.
    The Marbles Tang is adjustable for windage as well as elevation; the Lyman is not, so you have to drift the front. In some cases, a folding buckhorn can remain in place, but sometimes has to be removed, for blocking the peep.
    Jackal1, thank you for the pictures; presume the smaller hole is just for a locating screw, while the tang screw is what really secures the sight.
    Don't mind drilling and tapping, but hate to go to the well too often. (We just don't have a decent local gunsmith) Hate to admit it, but the thot has crossed my mind to remove the tang safety, and simply cover its slot with the sight base.
    Thnx gang,
    Moon
     
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  15. halfmoonclip

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    Cliff, how is the quality of the Chiappa? Have some of their Rhino handguns, and they are well done. They do have a 16" version. My Rossi is really functional, but just a little rough on the edges.
    Moon
     
  16. Cowhide Cliff

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    Quite a bit better than Rossi on average. None compare to a good original Winchester 1892
     
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  17. czhen

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    I've found the Rossi nice outside, but my stainless steel was very rough inside the action (clearly seen the cutting tools marks) needed some care with oil and sanding to get a smooth action.
     
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  18. halfmoonclip

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    My experience as well, which is what has my looking for other alternatives. Have a Miroku '73, and that thing is a work of art, tho' the wood is plain.
    Simply perplexed as to why the 92s are so tough to find.
    Moon
     
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  19. Southmountain

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    From your other post, congrats on your new 92.

    Miroku 92’s are hard to find because they don’t manufacture many. Just a few runs per year.

    Henry, Rossi, Ruger are pretty much the only ones making levers regularly.
     
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    I found a well worn Winchester '92 at Sunday's gunshow trip. I don't remember the price as I looked at far too many price tags but it wasn't cheap.

    I have had my Rossi '92 completely apart and they did a decent job on the inside with it.
     
  21. Driftwood Johnson

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    I don't know about these days, but years ago Chiappa was looked down on in CAS circles. The quality was not very good. The Miroku rifles made in Japan for Winchester have always been very high quality.

    Of course, nothing beats an original for quality. This Winchester Model 1892 left the factory in 1897. I bought it for CAS about 20 years ago for a very good price because it had been refinished. No, I don't remember the price. This one is chambered for 44-40, rifles were never chambered for 45 Colt until quite recently. I had the Lyman peep sight added, and changed out the rear sight for a rear sight that flips down so it did not interfere with the sight picture when using the peep sight. It was, and still is, a tack driver.

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    This 44-40 Model 1892 saddle ring carbine shipped in 1918.

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    This 32-20 Model 1892 shipped in 1911. I really like the octagon barrel.

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