9mm 147 Grain: Yes or No?

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Quoheleth:

No. They don't function reliably in a CZ.

The CZ will run perfectly with 147gr if the slide stop shape is slightly altered to allow clearance for the bullet. A simple fix with a dremel and some fine sandpaper.

http://www.czforumsite.info/index.php?topic=19892.0
and scroll down to slide stop for larger bullets

oops, edit to read slide stop not ejector---senior moment

 

[9mmepiphany]

when the H&K P-7 was making a play for a portion of the LE market with the M8 amd M13, they sent out a bulletin not to shoot the P7 with SilverTips or 147gr bullets.

the 147gr warning was only directed towrd the P-7 as it worked fine in the MP-5...especially the SD model

 

[jglcolosprgs]

124 gr +p

 

[LubeckTech]

I prefer 147gr bullets in general for 9mm because I like am (for better or worse) a big fan of the .38spl. To me 147gr 9mm is like a 38spl Glock.

 

[Kangspec]

seems like for HST 9mm. 147gr do slightly better job than 124gr.

 

[RX-178]

This is really just a heavy and slow vs light and fast argument within the same caliber.

http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/ If you aren't aware of it already, I highly recommend this site for choosing your carry loads. In 9mm, I personally go for the 147gr. I also usually carry a .45 instead of a 9mm.

 

[gmh1013]

Yes I use Fed 147 grain in my Sig 2022...love it

 

[Ryder]

I have never shot a 147gr 9mm bullet.

 

[grimjaw]

No. They don't function reliably in a CZ.

Q

Maybe your CZ, but they've worked fine in three of my CZs (P01, PCR, and stainless 75B).

I use 9mm 147gr because of the unexamined belief that I'll get slightly better penetration out of shorter barrels without having to go to a +P load designed for that purpose. Less stress on the gun and on my hand (I carry a Kahr MK9).

jm

 

[Gary in Pennsylvania]

124gr +P Speer Gold Dots for me.

Me too.
Same as RckMtn

 

[Jim PHL]

can't recall if I'd actually shot any 147 lately but the 124 grain offerings are very accurate for me - much better than 115's - so I stick with them.

 

[BlindJustice]

Yes, Double Tap 147 Gr. Gold Dot JHPs rated @ 1125 FPS

 

[NG VI]

From what I understand, 147 gr bullets have come a long way since they were introduced.

Absolutely.

I'm not obsessed with trying to find the hyped up, high dollar, rhino stopping ammo.

So no Cor-Bon for you eh? HST is actually the cheapest of the current crop of defense loads, and it just works, really, really well. It's an extremely consistent and dependable bullet.

 

[Snowdog]

There's nothing wrong with today's 147gr JHPs. Current generation 147gr JHPs are designed to expand at lower velocities typically encountered from short-barrel handguns and are generally tolerant of clothing. I have quite a bit of respect for the 147gr Federal HST and it's what my Hipower stays loaded with.
Though I use standard pressure 124gr Golden Sabers (another JHP designed to have a low velocity expansion threshold) for CCW, I have used 147gr Rangers, HST and Hydra-Shok ammunition from my carry K9 plenty and wouldn't feel less protected with any of them.

 

[jerico34]

Presently caarrying Hornady Critical Defense 115 gr. Does anyone have experience with that ammo?

 

[Coltman 77]

I use 124 gr +P in the following; Golden Saber, HST, Gold Dot.

 

[Erik M]

I like the Federal +p+ 115 grain stuff because my pistola eats it perfectly.

124gr Golden Sabre +p also gets an honorable mention from me.

 

[Maj Dad]

I use Speer 124 Gold Dots because they shoot exactly to point of aim at 15-20 yards in my slicked up 908 Smith, otherwise, I would use whatever weight slug did that.

 

[wrs840]

I use standard pressure 124gr Remington Golden Sabers.

Me too. It's just because of a couple of range testing outings comparing all the usual contenders. It just made me and my wife comfortable that we were getting the best groups with it in her S&W 5904. So I say try everything you're considering, and go with what gives you confidence in the cumulative combination of man, method, and machine.

Les

 

[wally]

I would if I carried a 9mm. So I voted yes.

--wally.

 

[Dr_2_B]

For many of us, our personal choice may not mean we withhold endorsement. For example, I carry 124 +p in mine usually, but that doesn't mean I'd rule out the 147. 15 years ago, I would've ruled it out, but not anymore.

 

[grimjaw]

Personally, I don't see the point in 124gr 9x19 +P loads anymore. .357 SIG surpasses that in its "standard" pressure load. My view of 9x19 is similar to what one of the other posters mentioned. My 9x19 guns are the equivalent of expanded capacity, autoloading .38 Specials. I use it because it is a relatively low recoil round in a standard pressure load, and I want the heaviest bullet available for it that will reliably expand at the velocities I can expect at typical self defense ranges. I understand that more recent bullet designs are better at this than 147gr offerings from the past.

 

[Rock]

http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=19887

 

[ByAnyMeans]

147gr Federal HST in a Glock26

 

[9mmepiphany]

.357 SIG surpasses that in its "standard" pressure load.

the issue is that the standard pressure 357Sig is much harder on the gun than even the 9mm +P loads, as it is based on the .40