Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by Mot45acp, Jul 27, 2022.
I have heard the WWB was surprisingly reliable for its cost.
Problem with most 147 hollow points is they don't leave you much room for powder.
I use Hornady xpt, at least until rmr bullets makes a 147gr hp.
I carry and trust the HST series. I have seen and heard of good results on all sorts of targets. Groups excellent in my Shield.
I prefer the heavier bullets when possible.
I also have carried Hornady XTP, so I'm not shy from variety.
I have also carried the exact WWB 147gr JHP ammo you speak of and it performed well enough when shot at media.
147 grain HSTs.
Can anyone provide links to any ballistics testing that shows that 147 grain bullets will expand reliably through heavy clothing at subsonic velocities?
It doesn't seem to be a problem for ammo manufacturers. Or reloading manuals.
Thanks for the link!
I think several do well. I may be wrong, but isn’t the main issue that many hollow points plug up and don’t function? For the one’s made to transcend that challenge, I don’t think a few layers of winter jacket with some light filling (such as down) will make a huge difference.
There's plenty of lucky gunner tests.
When dealing with subsonics expansion becomes more of a function of sectional density. For example with 45acp, 185gr and 230gr are both subsonic, usually. 185gr loads are usually a bit faster but I have found that 230s are the most likely to expand reliability even with them being always slower than 185s.
Federal loads it to achieve 1000 fps from a 4" pistol barrel.
You can buy bulk in 50 round boxes online.
Magnum Meat Target
2 layers of leather jacket "skin"
Pork chop "pectoral"
Bag-of-Oranges "lung tissue"
Four layers of T-shirt in the front, 4 layers on the back
PLUS MARGARINE to simulate fat !!!
Remember ! I'm right handed !!!
@C0untZer0 Thank you for posting that.
Black talons were going for like $5 a shot during the height of the summer of firey protests. I don't know why, there's better stuff now.
It's the same thing with 38 Spl 158-grain LSWCHP +P
Meh, besides Speer Gold Dot 135 grain how many .38 rounds do much better than that FBI load?
No the 158 grain lswchp fbi load
I still use both of those... and the Corbon version of the 115 +P+. Yep, back in the day my Illinois State Police friends carried S&W 3rd Generation 5900 series semi-autos loaded with 115gr +P+. I personally know of two one-shot kills with that round in ISP District 10. And of course many more reported successes that are just statistics that I have no personal knowledge of.
Really when it comes down to it there are so many effective rounds, and there has been for a long time. We have a lot to choose from. There is no one, "Best." as much as we'd like it to be that simple. All of the above have been proven in life and death encounters, and stopped perps bent of hurting people. We got that going for us.
Yes great example. If I was going to buy a hot 9mm load I would go with a 124 or 147gr over a hot 115gr.
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