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9mm Carbine, what's out there?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by dscottw88, Jun 11, 2009.

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  1. dscottw88

    dscottw88 Member

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    I've played with the idea of getting a 9mm AR, but I've been told they are difficult to keep running. I still want some sort of 9mm carbine though. What are my options? The only other two I can think of is either the CX4 Storm, which seems a bit pricey. And the hi-point, which (dont ask) I refuse to pick up. So what else is out there that I'm not aware of?
     
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    +1 for the Sub2000
     
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    Hmm... I'm thinking more along the lines of AR, and less along the lines of Sporting Rifle. Thanks for the input so far though.
     
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    LOVE my kel tec sub 2000, great and accurate gun.
     
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    +2,3,&4 Sub 2000 Kel-Tec
     
  8. benzy2

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    A 9mm AR? You want a 9mm AR but you say you don't. Just buy a 9mm AR and be done with it.
     
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    I've got a Sub 2000 and my buddies always want me to bring it along to the range. Never has malfunctioned although its gonna cover lefties (like me) in hot brass. X
     
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    In the AR world lots of folks badmouth the Olyinpic Arms guns but I love my
    9mm upper. Bought it used (upper only) and it has never skipped a beat. Any old cheep ammo including some pretty light reloads.

    I know several guys who shoot in a pistol caliber carbine match and the olyinpic guns always run.

    I believe that If I were to do it again I would order the complete gun with the special lower that takes standard Glock mags.Plentiful,reasonable priced and you can have the 33 rd for blasting and a short 10 rounder for bench or prone and still use them in your glock pistol. Easy to load also.If you special order from Oly they will build on a flatop also.

    The weak link in many of the 9mm carbines is the magazines for one or more reasons but the Glock/Oly combo has got that licked
     
  12. briansmithwins

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    Of the 9mmP PCCs (Pistol Caliber Carbines) the Beretta works pretty good. I'm using a semi-auto Uzi which works fine as long as it's fed hotter ammo as it short strokes on WWB and Blazer. The other downside to the Uzi is that optic mounting options are minimal.

    Of the 9mmP ARs the Olympic PCC that uses Glock mags seem to work best of the ones I've seen. We have a couple of local matches where PCCs are required due to range safety considerations. BSW
     
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    A few months ago I found a Ruger PC9 well worth the money, 4 bills, and haven't looked back. I put a Bushnell Trophy 1X32 on it and am very happy with this set up. It will shoot Hornady 115 gr. XTP's into less than an inch at 25 yards. The nice thing is that the Hornady XTP's and WWB 115 gr. 9's have the same POI.

    I know, bolt action guys will think that is terrible but if I want to shoot into less than an inch at 100 yards, I'll use my tikke T3.

    The only bad thing is that here lately I've seen them go in the upper $500 to lower $600 range.
     
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    Whomever told you that 9MM ARs are hard to keep running either A: had a crappy one or B: didn't know what they were doing. Get either a Colt or a Rock River and you will be fine. Avoid Oly, etc.

    Both use Uzi Mags with minor modifications and will take just about any accessory you can put on a normal AR.

    I also like the Baretta, but it is getting up into AR price territory.

    Camp 9, Sub 2000, and PC9 seem to have a nice following but I don't have any personal experience with them so I can't say one way or another
     
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    9mm carbine = UZI....because just like the song...."its simply the best!...better then all the rest"

    although I wouldnt be opposed to an SBR AR15. The only AR 9mm I have ever shot was one in full auto.
     
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    Ignore that and get the Oly that takes Glock mags. I love mine just wish someone had some ammo for it.
     
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    Can get yourself MP5/HK94 semis and NFA stuff as well if you want. They're expensive but well, if you want one you want one.

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    I love mine.
     
  18. ArfinGreebly

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    Carbines

    I have the Beretta CX4 Storm in 9mm. A very brisk handling close quarters carbine.

    And a Marlin Camp 9. Sweetest 50 yard gun I own.

    A friend of mine in Reno bought a Hi Point 995 carbine, stuck a red dot on aftermarket stocks, and was hitting cans out past 150 yards.

    Ruger makes (or did, at least) the PC-9, which is a solid performer.

    I really wish they'd bring back the Marlin Camp 9.

     
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    Kel-Tec Sub-2000

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    Hi-Point 995

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    Ruger PC9,Sterling 9mm Sporter Rifle,LUSA 9 mm carbine
     
  21. dscottw88

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    Thats funny, reading on AR15.com I got the exact opposite impression. That colt/RR take some tinkering to get working properly, but that the Oly models work out of the box.
     
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    Anotther BIG +1 for the sub2k. I own the .40 cal flavor and it is wonderfully accurate out to 100 yards. I am keeping my eyes open for a 9mm version that takes S&W mags.
     
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    I sold my CX4 to help pay for a RRA AR in 9MM. Love it. I still have my sub 2000 in 9MM. The CX4 was a great little gun, just not my style I guess.
     
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    Bought mine on a whim 5 years ago. Put a scope on it and 100 yd shots get boring after a while, it is that good. BTW never any failure of any kind.

    Got a hard time from some range commando a few years ago bout how I should know better than to buy an ugly pos like that.

    I had $37.00 dollars in my pocket. I said you pick the target. I went home with $74.00:evil:
     
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    Sub-2000 owner here. You can't use aluminum cased rounds (or at least REALLY REALLY shouldn't! It's in the manual!), but other than that, I like it.

    Mine has been a little picky with magazines and ammo (It doesn't like two of my 33 rounders, or PMC 115gr FMJ in general), but there aren't any problems with the weapon itself.

    Now, unless you're shorter than 5'5", you're probably going to want the stock extension from Kel-Tec. This thing comes out of the box with a REALLY short length of pull.

    I'm satisfied with my Sub-2000, enough so that it'll probably be my only 9mm carbine for the near future.
     
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