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Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by p8riot, Aug 8, 2005.

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  1. p8riot

    p8riot Member

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    I am looking at getting a 9mm carbine to supplement my stable of 9mm handguns. As a matter of fact I found a really nice used Marlin Camp 9 at a local shop complete with a decent little Tasco scope, sling, 20 rd mag, and flash-hider, so I put a deposit down to hold it. I am not worried about the desposit as I know I can get it back if I change my mind.

    The main reason I am interested in the Camp 9 is that it will accept S&W 59 series mags. I have both a 5906 and a Kel-Tec P11 that also will use the same ones.

    What I am looking for is some information. I have heard a lot of good things about the Hi-Point 9mm Carbine, and I used to have a Ruger PC9 (traded it for a "T" series BHP). I am not interested in the Kel-Tec Sub2000 as the stock is too short for me. I would be interested in a Beretta storm if it were within my price range.

    How do the Hi-Point and the Ruger stack up against the Camp 9?

    If you had your druthers which one of the three would you have?

    What would be a good price on the Camp 9? I can still dicker if I want.
     
  2. jefnvk

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    I'll sure say that the Camp 9 looks better than my Hi-Point :uhoh:
     
  3. chaim

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    A High Point is an accurate and reliable little carbine. However, it isn't comfortable to shoot (with the iron sights it will smack you pretty well in the cheek, though with a red dot scope raising your cheek weld it is much more comfortable) and it is pretty raw (ugly, cheap looking materials).

    The Marlin and Ruger are much better looking guns. As for reliability and accuracy I couldn't say since I have only owned a High Point.

    If they were priced equally I'd probably buy the Marlin or Ruger (no idea which I'd prefer of the two). Since they aren't, and the High Point is a good gun, you need to figure out if the price difference is worth the cosmetics and more comfortable materials and design for the Marlin or Ruger or the savings on the High Point is worth the lower comfort level and uglier gun. For me, at my income level, I'd probably go for the savings, though I wouldn't mind either the Marlin or Ruger there are other guns I'd rather have for the money. You have to decide for you where your priorities are.
     
  4. scubie02

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    I've owned both a camp carbine and a hipoint. In all honesty, the hipoint is just as accurate and reliable. It has the advantage that you don't have to baby it/worry about it, and it is of course much cheaper. OTOH, in your particular situation the Marlin has the advantage of shared mags, which is nice, and they aren't making any more of them, so its somewhat of a collectable, and of course its much better looking. If the marlin's a good price, I might almost say go that way. But you won't go wrong with a hipoint most likely either.
     
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    I have the 40cal Hi Point, super accurate, fun, cheap, first gun I purchased
    in years that actually suprised me with out of the box accuracy.
     
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    I haven't done much research as to what is involved but I always thought that when I finally got around to doing the 9mm carbine thing I'd do an AR15 version; i.e. get a 9mm upper receiver.

    It would just be for fun and an excuse to take a different rifle to the range. It might be a gentle way to introduce someone to the AR15 platform. As soft shooting as a 5.56 is I've noticed a few people flinch the first time they pull the trigger; especially at indoor ranges.

    Anybody gone that direction?
     
  7. GarrettJ

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    I used to have a Camp 9, and currently have a Camp 45. The trigger on the 9mm was a little on the squishy side. Accuracy was decent, and reliability was great with both the factory mag and some 20 round aftermarket mags.

    I don't care for the magazine safety. But I don't have any other complaints.
     
  8. p8riot

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    Thanks for the feed back folks. Another question:

    Does anyone know anything about available replacement stocks for the Camp 9? I am not interested in the Bullpup style stock, but something more like a folder with a pistol grip. Whats out there?
     
  9. mrstang01

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    Folders are available again from Ramline, I believe.
     
  10. Dave Markowitz

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    Choate Machine & Tool makes a folder for the Marlin Camp Carbines.

    I own a Camp 45 with a red dot sight and love it. It's one of the guns I enjoy shooting the most. It's very accurate and reliable. I think you'll be pleased with the Camp 9.
     
  11. skidmark

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    :D Congratulations on becoming a Marlin Camp owner.

    Just a quick word on buffers - buy up as many as you can find. They do not make them any more, and if yours gets old/stiff you will find out why there were more stocks than full carbines made. (Can you say "splintered"?)

    stay safe.

    skidmark
     
  12. Beren

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    You know you want one. Don't resist.

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  13. Dave Markowitz

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    FYI,

    Blackjack Buffers makes buffers for the Marlin Camp Carbines.
     
  14. jame

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    I'm relatively new to AR's. Could I just buy a 9mm uppper amd a magwell adadpter and be good to go?
     
  15. Berek

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    I picked up a Hi-Point 995 with a 4x28mm scope. In two days (saturdays, not two consecutive), expended over 2500 rounds. My only complaint is that I kept running out of quarters...
    :D

    Berek
     
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    I have a Camp .45. Great gun. But for 9mm, I decided to go the futuristic route and bought a Cx4 Storm. I will never sell it.
     
  17. Beren

    Beren Moderator Emeritus

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    I believe you may need a different buffer, buffer spring, and hammer.
     
  18. Zach S

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    Resistance is futile...

    9mm AR FAQ

    Dawg180's reply titled "Not-so-Quick and Dirty FAQ to 9mm uppers" is the most informative. Its about the 12th one down.
     
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