9mm Defense Loads?

[sm]

Depends...

Reliabilty is priority for me. I test a min of 200 of semi auto ammo before I carry it. I also consider POA/POI. I want to know for MY gun for MY needs.

Weight of gun : ammo ratio affect recoil.

Since we are speaking of a 3913 I think the 115gr JHP from Win is a fine choice. As is the Win 115 gr STHP have run 100% in the range 3913 guns we had, POA /consistent and afforded quick follow up shots.

Different recoil and follow up may not be a big deal in a Beretta 92 or Taurus eqiv...pop that round in a 3913, Glock 26 or Keltec P-11, test for yourself.

Do a Search under Stephen Camp , check his site. Mr. Camp is a sharp fella with real world experience whom I respect . He will also support the testing in your gun for reliability, POA/POI, shot to shot recovery, and choose for the task.

WESHOOT2 is another to search under, this fella kinda/sorta plays with ammo

 

[artherd]

Glock G34. Winchester Ranger 127gr +p+ SXT Talons, part #RA9TA

 

[earthworm]

Alduro- It's a holdover from my revolver days when I alternated
Glasiers with Federal NyClad HPs. Here's my reasoning:
The Glasier is in the chamber as it is a fairly devestating load & I
want that power first-up to hopefully end the fight with one shot.
But Glasiers sometimes don't feed all that well & might break up on
heavy clothing so I follow that with a hollow point that should penetrate &
expand.The BEPs will penetrate &,being a lead-exposed soft point,might expand. As I said,these latter two loads feed reliably in my Star BM & shoot to the same POA.I've always felt that HP's should expand but might not penetrate & soft points should penetrate but would likely not expand:call these a compromise between ball & HP.

 

[Marcus]

I generally prefer lighter bullets in smaller guns to keep the muzzle velocity up. I load my CZ-75B with Speer 124gr. +P GDHPs and my Keltec with 115gr. +P Corbons. Testing by numerous sources seems to show that lower than normal muzzle velocity yields less expansion and deeper penetration,hence my choice of a normally rapid expanding,relatively shallow penetration load for the P-11. That said,at the end of the day I think just about any decent hollow point will do what needs to be done in a pinch. Marcus

 

[earthworm]

But when all's said & done if it feeds reliably & shoots accurately it's a good load: it's less what you hit 'em with than where you hit 'em.

 

[incursion]

124 gr. Gold Dot +P, Ranger T 127 gr. +P+, Pow 'R Ball +P

 

[cratz2]

I've mostly used 124 Gr +P Gold Dots and 115 Gr +P CorBons... have seen what both do in dead animals... pretty ugly. Both seem to do decently in most testings... I'd count on either.

The Rangers are very consistantly recommended and seem to expand quite reliably from at least moderate barrel lengths of 4" or so.

I would (and do) feel well armed with any of the above listed.

 

[Mil Novecientos Once]

I use Fiocchi 115gr JHP

I 've been using Fiocchi's JHP in my CS9 since day one. I've done the Fackler's* milk cartons test and the bullet always stop in the 5 or 6 carton.

*A Simple Method for Testing Bullets with Your Guns

A quick and easy method to determine bullet or shotshell performance out of any handgun or shotgun is to gather several (and we mean several -- about 30) cardboard half-gallon milk cartons (plastic won't do).

Fill them full of water, line them up side-by-side three abreast, in three rows of 10 (each carton should be in contact with its neighbor). Back-up several feet and shoot a bullet from your handgun into the center row of cartons.

Count the number of water filled cartons the bullet penetrated, including the carton where the bullet came to rest. Multiply the number of cartons times 2.5 to determine penetration depth in inches. This will give you a SWAG (scientific wild-??? gauge) of how your gun/cartridge combination will perform in soft tissue (both bullet expansion and penetration).

The data obtained and averaged from three test shots should give you a fairly accurate SWAG. Remember to observe all safety rules when handling your firearm.

 

[SWMAN]

Try this link to an October 1997 Evan Marshall article and tables on the best loads in .380acp, 9mm, .38 special out of 2" and 4" barrels, 40S&W, .357 magnum (still #1), .45 ACP and .45 colt.
http://www.neiassociates.org/caliber.htm

 

[Brigrat]

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