9mm luger the new 1,000 yard cartridge

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  1. bullzeye8

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    Somehow Jerry Miculek was able to hit a balloon at 1,000 yards with his s&w 929 performance center revolver being shot double action and with a non-magnified dot sight.

    He said he aimed about 150 feet high so he couldn't even see the target so he had to superimpose it at the bottom of the sight. Guess how many attempts it took him to make it. Only 2. I would be happy to get a second round hit on that balloon with a rifle at 1,000 yards let alone with a revolver.

    So what is next for Jerry? 200 yards upside down with defensive revolver, now 1,000 yards with a 9mm revolver. Maybe he can shoot the v- drill with his barret .50 cal at 1 mile offhand?

    Here is the link to the video I meant to put but forgot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ3XwizTqDw
     
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    And here I thought I was doing well hitting an exploding target at 100 yards with my .45. Guess I need a little more practice.
     
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    Jerry and the late Bob Munden are the two most amazing pistol shooters the world has ever known, and quite possibly the best we will ever see.
     
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    I saw the video and from the look of where the bullet hit on the steel backing plate relative to the balloon, I suspect the may have balloon popped from a lead fragment when the bullet hit the steel plate rather than an actual hit on the balloon. But that said, just hitting the steel backing plate at that distance is an incredible feat in and of itself.
     
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    Of course bullet splash did it.

    That's the way all those long range balloon shots of Bob Mundan and Jerry's are made.

    But it's still dang good shooting.

    rc
     
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    Jerry is incredible. And, he says in one of his videos that his eyesight is not as good now that he's older. I could hit that plate at 100 yards with a 9MM. At a thousand, I suspect I could shoot at it all afternoon, and not even come close ;D
     
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    Whoa.... just whoa.
     
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    Yeah, probably bullet splash...

    Still an awesome shot. Ask me to shoot a ballon 1,000 yards away and I would probably say "I don't see a ballon..."
     
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    A 9mm will still splash after 1000 yards? That's almost as impressive as the shot! :eek:

    TCB
     
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    Wow. I would have thought much higher than 70 yds elevation
     
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    Mr Jerry.....

    I think Mr Jerry could hit just about anything. ;)
    I also watched a new Instragram clip of SIG Sauer's new SAO X6 P226 9x19mm. The shooter hit a plate about 100 yards away.
    The SAO SIGs are cool. They aren't for entry level shooters but some of the target models are slick.

    Rusty
     
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    I could do it. It would have to be a 100 foot tall hot air baloon and 100 rounds to practice with, but I vould do it.......
     
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    Yea, I could do that also. However, I would measure the distance in meters. MILIMETERS, that is.
     
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    Jerry Miculek is an exceptionally good shooter.

    In this take, he hit the backer plate on his second shot.

    I wonder how many previous takes there were.

    And I wonder what kind of groups the revolver would make at 1000 yards if it were clamped in a machine rest . . .
     
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    How fast do you think that bullet was traveling at the 1000 yard mark?
     
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    Don't know without digging deep into some ballistics calculators tonight?

    But, fast enough to break a ballon on a steel plate I guess.

    And if I had to guess?
    I'd guess somewhere in the 400-450 FPS range.

    rc
     
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    I actually am not sure if that is the case. I saw one comment saying that the bullet has to be dropping at a sharp angle so it could have easily popped the balloon and then still impacted down there. If you watch the video closely it appears like the balloon pops just before you see the mark on the steel and hear the ding.
     
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    Yeah, if you figure about 1200 fps from the revolver with a longer barrel than a pistol and probably a hotter handload, then with a BC of .212 for the 147 gr XTP, the Hornady calculator gives about 580 fps at 1000. Faster than I would have expected.
     
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    But, he said it wasn't a hot handload.

    He said if was factory Hornady 147 grain XTP.

    Figure it again at 1,000 - 1,150 FPS and see what you get.

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    Wow!!

    He has got to be really good to be that lucky. :scrutiny:
     
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    ^^^I will fix that for you. You have to be really lucky to be that good a shot.:D I am for sure NOT that good or lucky either way you look at it.:p
     
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    I calculated it at 1000fps for that bullet and got about 560fps at 1000yards. I also came up with a hold-over of about 225ft.

    I know Jerry is probably one of the 3 best pistol shooters alive, if not the best, but I just can't believe he actually did this. I wonder who he had standing downrange to actually shoot the balloon :) Naw, I'm sure he actually did it, but there's no way I could believe he actually figured out the shot in 2 shots. The question is, how many practice rounds did he fire before they turned on the camera?
     
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    Who knows how many times he practiced it before calling in the camera crew?

    The guy has his own range in the back yard.
    And he shoots more rounds in practice in a week then most of us shoot in five years.

    It also seems unlikely most of us have any rifle sighted in exact enough at 200 yards to hit that plate at 1,000 yards in two shots.

    There simply had to be some heavy duty prep work before the cameras got called in.
    And there had to one hell of a great pistol shooter to do it even then!

    rc
     
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    Well, at 1100 fps, it's still about 560 fps at 1000 yrds and at 1000 fps it's 536 fps. And as KansasSasquatch noted, the calculated holdover is quite more than Jerry stated in the video.

    As RC also noted, I'm willing to bet that there was quite a bit of prep work done before this video was shot. But probably most (or at least some) of us think that Jerry isn't just a shooter with more experience than the rest of us. Pick any sport or avocation that you like and you can find a very few people who stand head and shoulders above the rest. Call it innate ability, God given talent, winning the gene pool lottery, or whatever you like. That, along with the application of tens of thousands of hours (or millions of rounds in this case) of practice, and there you have it.
     
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