9mm luger the new 1,000 yard cartridge

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Heck, I have trouble seeing the target at 100 now-a-days.

Watch enough of his vids and he is pretty good at showing his failures and attempts. I don't doubt he nailed it rather quickly...
 
Two more of his long-range pistol shots.

200yards with a .380 S&W M&P Bodyguard using iron sights. Hit on the 4rth shot.
http://youtu.be/5Fwb-9aYDa0?list=UUhk5eyAGuO3J4rV-CiMNkNQ

400+ yards with a 9mm S&W M&P CORE. Hit on the first shot.
http://youtu.be/oK0EdI_RluY?list=UUhk5eyAGuO3J4rV-CiMNkNQ

As mentioned above, the balloon is not the target, it is placed to make it easy to tell the target has been hit even at long distance. The target is the steel and a hit anywhere on the steel will pop the balloon.
 
A late friend of mine Royce Weddle was a fantastic pistol shooter in his own right once told me that the more you practice , the luckier you get. Enough said !
 
You got that right!

I used to be a whole lot luckier 50 years ago when I was shooting pistols full time for 5th. Army AMU!
And they were buying the ammo & paying me to shoot 8 hours a day every day.

Even Saturday & Sundays when there was a pistol match to shoot somewhere in the country.

rc
 
Anyone ever shot at the NRA Center at Raton NM? They have a white buffalo silhouette target at about 1050 yards. See if you can hit that with your second shot, and it's something like 9 feet wide. That steel plate was what, 18 inches across? Truly amazing.
 
Took me about fifteen shots to sight in a match-conditioned Garand* at 1000 yards --36 or 38 clicks up on the Garand sight. Had a buddy behind a hillock at the target spotting for me and reporting back by walkie-talkie.

It's true that the more you shoot, the luckier you get.


*Borrowed from the Coors gun club.
 
I know Jerry is great and all (obviously), but I wonder what the hit % would be if they replaced Jerry with a perfect mechanical rest.

I would also assume a good bit of prep work to get the holdover even close.
 
Great shot AND shooter. Loved Jerry's reaction: it looked like genuine surprise that the second shot hit. With my eyes (and talent) at a 1,000 yards the target had better be the size of a good-sized barn. Or just say to heck with it and call in close air support.

Jeff
 
Just think about the human mechanics of that shot. He has to be able to hold steady enough to put that round on that steel plate at that distance. Deep end of the gene pool there.
 
A late friend of mine Royce Weddle was a fantastic pistol shooter in his own right once told me that the more you practice...
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Back in the late 1970s I watched Royce Weddle hit a Zerox copy of a $100.00 dollar bill four out of six times shooting his PPC revolver double action at 100 yards. The shots were a side match and he did it cold and on demand. The other 2 shots were on the 8.5x11 piece of paper just an inch or so away from the bill.

FWIW, the Impossible Shots are pretty dang cool, but I would imagine there are plenty of shooters capable of hitting a a piece of steel the size of a car door at 1000 yards with an optic sight on a custom revolver. Don't get me wrong, Jerry is IMHO the best revolver shooter across the board alive today, but there are a multitude of precision wheel gun shooters past and present.
 
Just think about the human mechanics of that shot. He has to be able to hold steady enough to put that round on that steel plate at that distance. Deep end of the gene pool there.
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Originally posted by On An Island

First of all to make that shot he couldn't have been aiming within the range of the steel. He would have to aiming somewhere in the sky to make that kind of a shot with the drop the bullet would have at that distance. Think of the bullet arcing way up and dropping damn near on top of the balloon to make this happen. Personally, I am not sure I believe this. I would have to see it in person. Now what I do know is that I can make anyone look awesome on a video simply be taking out the other 10,000 shots it took until someone got lucky. I am not saying thats an impossible shot but it would damn sure be hard to do that with any consistency. IMO, that is more or less pure luck. Anyone that shoots long range and knows ballistics knows all kinds of things can happen to the bullet between the time it leaves the barrel and lands on target. And even though the wind may be moving one way where you are at it could be moving the opposite where the target is at. I would have to see this in person. Sorry.
 
Silent stalker there may have been some luck involved just because the gun probably couldn't hit that steel every time at 1,000 yards even on a perfect day. However I want to see you try that shot. Think how much a little flinch or bad trigger control can mess you up at 25 yards. Now if you did that at 1,000 yards you wouldn't even be anywhere near that steel. This is showing how solid Jerry's shooting is that he can even get it close with a dot sight at 1,000 yards. Even his first video-taped shot that missed was still close enough that his spotter could pick ups it's impact.

As to it actually happening if it was anybody else I wouldn't believe it but as has already been said in this thread Jerry is the best shooter alive. He has fired millions of rounds and holds world records for revolver shooting. With his reaction and just him being him I believe he actually did it. However I would like to see this in person.
 
rcmodel said:
Of course bullet splash did it.

That's the way all those long range balloon shots of Bob Mundan and Jerry's are made.

But it's still dang good shooting.

rc
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Yes and yes. It's a pretty incredible example of optimum trigger press.

I would also assume a good bit of prep work to get the holdover even close.
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Some basic trig, sure. That doesn't make it any less impressive, IMHO.
 
I'll have to say he is a great shooter. No, doubt about that.

But the time he hit the balloon at 200 yards with a 2" .38 J-Frame on "Impossible Shots". He didn't hit the balloon. He hit the large angled steel, and the splatter burst the balloon. So Unless the paint is gone where the balloon sat I'd say it was splatter.
Now if he shot it blowing in the wind off a string then.... I guess anyone could do it if they had enough ammo, and walked it to the where it needed to hit.
 
Eb1 said:
I'll have to say he is a great shooter. No, doubt about that.

But the time he hit the balloon at 200 yards with a 2" .38 J-Frame on "Impossible Shots". He didn't hit the balloon. He hit the large angled steel, and the splatter burst the balloon. So Unless the paint is gone where the balloon sat I'd say it was splatter.
Now if he shot it blowing in the wind off a string then.... I guess anyone could do it if they had enough ammo, and walked it to the where it needed to hit.
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Hitting a 2'x4' steel plate at 1000 yards with a handgun is very impressive. Of course, a hit anywhere on the plate would have caused the balloon to pop. For that matter a hit on the adjacent plate probably would have sent enough splatter flying to pop the balloon. For my money this doesn't take away much at all from the accomplishment.
 
You really should all be ashamed of yourselves. Jerry is incredible, period. For the doubters among you, I know that Jerry would happily have you present for the shooting to shut you up. If it was bullet splash, it's still the best pisol shooting I have ever seen, and better than ANY of us can do, ever. We are hopeless wanna-bees compared to him.
 
Furthermore, after a rewatch I'm convinced the balloon pops (audible) before the bullet hits the steel.
 
Eb1

Yep, anybody can do it. Why I seen some do it from the hip, why one guy does
it with a blindfold. You guys are a real piece of work you know that . Yes you
should be ashamed . You don't have a clue what shooting is about.
 
I'll have to take THR in response to your comment. I will respond respectfully though. Yes a lot of people could do it, and you probably don't understand video editing. Like not seeing the many shots he missed to make that one shot. If he would have done it two in a row without any stoppage then that would have been something to see.
I like the man, and he is an asset to the shooting community. I give him much respect. Just watch the video with an open mind and the camera angles. Like him dropping the rounds into the cylinder. Then when he shoots the camera is way away from him. To the untrained eye of video editing it seems like it is all happening in sequence when in reality it is edited.

I have zero doubt he hit the steel. Just not in the the length of the video.
 
I'll have to take THR in response to your comment. I will respond respectfully though. Yes a lot of people could do it, and you probably don't understand video editing. Like not seeing the many shots he missed to make that one shot. If he would have done it two in a row without any stoppage then that would have been something to see.
I like the man, and he is an asset to the shooting community. I give him much respect. Just watch the video with an open mind and the camera angles. Like him dropping the rounds into the cylinder. Then when he shoots the camera is way away from him. To the untrained eye of video editing it seems like it is all happening in sequence when in reality it is edited.

I have zero doubt he hit the steel. Just not in the the length of the video.
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Originally posted by Eb1

I second and third this statement. I have no doubt he could do it or anyone else for that matter. Anyone can get lucky with enough time. However, to do that in two shots I don't buy it. Sorry.

Silent stalker there may have been some luck involved just because the gun probably couldn't hit that steel every time at 1,000 yards even on a perfect day. However I want to see you try that shot. Think how much a little flinch or bad trigger control can mess you up at 25 yards. Now if you did that at 1,000 yards you wouldn't even be anywhere near that steel. This is showing how solid Jerry's shooting is that he can even get it close with a dot sight at 1,000 yards. Even his first video-taped shot that missed was still close enough that his spotter could pick ups it's impact.

As to it actually happening if it was anybody else I wouldn't believe it but as has already been said in this thread Jerry is the best shooter alive. He has fired millions of rounds and holds world records for revolver shooting. With his reaction and just him being him I believe he actually did it. However I would like to see this in person.
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Originally posted by bullzeye8

I have no idea why you are calling me out to make this shot. I never made such a claim that I could make that in two shots because I understand ballistics and video editing. There is no way in hell I could make that shot with a pistol in two shots. I never made such a claim. Give me a thousand rounds though and I bet I could hit it at least once. You just have to make sure the camera is rolling. I don't think its and easy shot to be made. Don't get me wrong he has skills, more than most of us, but I know plenty of good shooters that do well to make that shot with a high powered rifle and scope repeatedly.
 
I don't doubt that the actual individual shot on the video occurred as presented: He shoots bullet, bullet hits plate, balloon pops.

It is cool, but it is "fools gold"; likely not repeatable. If the gun and ammo is not accurate enough to make the shot from a perfect rest every time (I'm assuming it is not) then there is a large element of luck involved. And luck is not impressive. Now if if he posts a video making the same shot like 8 for 10 tries on demand, then we know he has really worked out consistency in the hold over and has great trigger control. We already knew that, but it would still be 100x more impressive than a single occurrence.

Jerry has done plenty of very impressive things with a revolver... to me this one shot is not really one of them.

Best revolver shooter alive today, or probably ever, sure.... Best handgun shooter alive, or ever, eh, lots of people could make a good argument for that. Grauffel is clearly the best pistol shooter on earth today. Rob Letham has 20+ national titles over the course of his career and is still VERY competitive with no knees...etc.
 
For those saying the bullet is coming almost straight down - if you do the math, it's actually travelling at a downward angle of about 60 degrees from horizontal. Extreme compared to a rifle round at that distance, but it's not like the bullet is dropping from the sky, either.

Like others, I'd also like to know how much trial and error went in prior to the video as well as how often he could repeat the shot. I don't think the trial and error really takes away from it, though.
 
a four foot vertical target at 1000 yards is 4.6 moa tall. at 100 yards, 4.6 moa is 4.8 inches tall. at 25 yards, 4.6 moa is 1.2 inches tall.

jerry said he was holding 75 or 80 yards above the target. 225 to 240 feet above target was verified by a couple posts as reasonable hold-over.

there was no wind.

jerry said he could see the target in the bottom of his sights.

very doable by a good shooter.

murf
 
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