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Want a low recoil 9mm, try a CZ P07. I have a P09 and that thing is sweet, though both may be too big.
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Want a low recoil 9mm, try a CZ P07. I have a P09 and that thing is sweet, though both may be too big.
I have a PCR and a P-01. We tried those but did not like the size. She doesn't have the same appreciation of CZ's that I do.
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I have a PCR and a P-01. We tried those but did not like the size. She doesn't have the same appreciation of CZ's that I do.
Few people do appreciate CZ, especially if their into the Gucci Glock thing. One simply cannot knock their accuracy, but many try.
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Yelp. Send a mag in, get a mag, then bend the tabs, enough. Ruger is a fine company, own a few myself, just can't trust my life or my daughter's with a companies QC dept.
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If cost is not a concern I would opt for the XDs. I carry a Shield daily and shoot it well, the trigger is disappointing, but all else is good. The XD has a superior trigger and I love the grip safety.
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Well since the CZ was mentioned, there's always the CZ75 compact or the polymer clones.
EAA imports the Turkish Sarsilmaz B6P compact and the Tanfoglio Witness.
My GF uses the SAR. A little big for CCW unless she purse carries. But a great shooter even in petite hands.
EAA imports the Turkish Sarsilmaz B6P compact and the Tanfoglio Witness.
My GF uses the SAR. A little big for CCW unless she purse carries. But a great shooter even in petite hands.
I've had my Shield 9mm for five years. It's been perfectly reliable. It's accurate and the recoil is negligible. The trigger is fine for most people. My only complaint is the grip. It's too thin for ME and somewhat slippery for ME.
The 2.0 version of the Shield has a 'better' trigger and a grip that some feel is too rough.
IMO, you can't find a better pistol in it's size. I also bought the Shield 45.
The 2.0 version of the Shield has a 'better' trigger and a grip that some feel is too rough.
IMO, you can't find a better pistol in it's size. I also bought the Shield 45.
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Are you sure it's a problem with the magazine and not the pistol? If new mags don't solve it then perhaps it is time to send the pistol in? They've always taken great care of me, including replacing guns that couldn't be fixed.
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I think the problem is not Ruger specific, but more .380 specific. I have never shot one that I would trust my life to. I you have one that functions fine then great, but peace of mind just is not there for me.
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I can highly recommend the Shield 9 - there's a reason I still have it. Great quality.
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That's not saying much since the SW9VE is garbage and the SD9VE isn't far behind. But, you ironically aren't wrong in the Rugers being on the same level. I see more plastic Rugers fail during class than any other brand. Dead triggers, pins walking out and magazine catches failing are the most common. I had one student have two Rugers go down in the same class. Wouldn't trust one for anything other than range time.
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Well, that's the first time I've ever seen anyone say anything positive about the recoil in a PA63... If you say the trigger was nice and light, I will know you are putting us on.
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Here's another vote for the Ruger LC9s. Has your daughter tried shooting one? It's important you ignore any experiences with the obsolete non-S model, as the LC9s is worlds better. I'm a CZ guy, but it's by far my favorite pocket 9, and was an easy choice when it came time to buy a pistol for CCW. I personally chose the "Pro" model (fewer mechanical parts to fail), but that's up to her.
As far as S&W M&P 9mms go, my wife selected one as her personal sidearm, and it's a good choice, as well. However, she didn't go for the Shield, as I expected- she liked the way the grip of the M&P 9c felt better. (That's the double-stack M&P in the compact frame, so 12-round magazine.) It's still more compact than a full-sized pistol, and lighter than a metal-framed pistol, too, even though it isn't a slim single-stack.
As far as S&W M&P 9mms go, my wife selected one as her personal sidearm, and it's a good choice, as well. However, she didn't go for the Shield, as I expected- she liked the way the grip of the M&P 9c felt better. (That's the double-stack M&P in the compact frame, so 12-round magazine.) It's still more compact than a full-sized pistol, and lighter than a metal-framed pistol, too, even though it isn't a slim single-stack.
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She has shot my son in-laws Shied 40 and handles it well, and likes it. She actually conceals with what I call a "girdle strap" holster and a shield should fit fine. Me, I don't go small, in KY open carry is legal and lots do it, though I don't often. Right now my carry gun is my P09 and yes its big , but I dress accordingly. If I carry a pocket gun it's my J-frame 637 S&W.
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The trigger is a bit better than original after I installed different springs but it still is pretty bad in double action. Yeah, I believe the recoil from the PA63 more than the Taurus .380 but she seemed to think differently. At least she didn't want the 1911, I'm not ready to give that up.
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I am astounded that no one has suggested a Walther PPS M2. IMO it is superior to any other single stack 9s out there. Smooth trigger, easy to rack, great ergos, very accurate, and, most important, 100% reliable (at least mine has been and countless other accounts of others stating the same).
Also my CW9 and CM9 have been 100% reliable and scary accurate but they can be a PITA to rack.
Also my CW9 and CM9 have been 100% reliable and scary accurate but they can be a PITA to rack.
Maybe because of the price point? Dunno. I have never seen one in person, but I was able to try a Shield before buying one.
The PPS M2 RMSc is pretty interesting.
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My daughter actually tried a friend's PPS M2 and liked it, but likes the Shield better.
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I love pocket guns, and small single stack 9mm. I carried the LC9 for many years, later when the LC9S came out, that was my go to winter carry. Nice gun, reliable, nice size. After 4 lcp's, I bought a Pico and never looked back. Actually bought two of them. I am a range rat and spend a ton on ammo and the Rugers got plenty of workouts each week. For a very long time, I have been researching for a new single stack 9mm. A lot of nice one's out there. I shot as many as I could from range buddies, rented a number of them etc. After shooting about 5,000 rounds through the two Pico's, I had to try the Beretta Nano. Well, have to say that I feel in love with it. I have had 4 sessions with it so far and a totally reliable pistol. My last session, was Sunday, On Sat. I had put about 200 rds of mixed ammo, everything from Bulk range ammo, to other other the counter stuff. 115g, 124 gr,147.Totally flawless. I came home on Sat. and purposely did not clean the gun. Sunday was again 200 rds. flawless.
The good part was the fact that this is a gun that is very mild to shoot. Much less muzzle flip than I was use to. It is fast to target and accurate.And so easy on the hand.
I shot, Freedom Munitions, Lax Ammo, Perfecta 115gr. Remington bucket range ammo, Tula Brass Max 115, PrecisionOne 124gr. Plus P, ARX plus P, American Eagle 124 gr. and a few others.
I love the size of this small Pistol.
The point of my post is to spend some time researching your carry. EDC is like buying a great hiking Boot. Each will have one that is perfect for him. The Shield, Kahr, Ruger, Smith, Springfied and on and on all make great guns.
When you find one that is perfect for you, then all is well. The Pico, Nano and Ruger LCR9mm are my personal choices. Other's will have theirs, and that is fine and the way it should be.
To the Op, best of luck.
The good part was the fact that this is a gun that is very mild to shoot. Much less muzzle flip than I was use to. It is fast to target and accurate.And so easy on the hand.
I shot, Freedom Munitions, Lax Ammo, Perfecta 115gr. Remington bucket range ammo, Tula Brass Max 115, PrecisionOne 124gr. Plus P, ARX plus P, American Eagle 124 gr. and a few others.
I love the size of this small Pistol.
The point of my post is to spend some time researching your carry. EDC is like buying a great hiking Boot. Each will have one that is perfect for him. The Shield, Kahr, Ruger, Smith, Springfied and on and on all make great guns.
When you find one that is perfect for you, then all is well. The Pico, Nano and Ruger LCR9mm are my personal choices. Other's will have theirs, and that is fine and the way it should be.
To the Op, best of luck.
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While the pps m2 is okay I shot an LE version along side with my shield. I looked the bigger sight dots on the pps but frankly my stock shield 1.0 trigger was just slightly better. After shooting my shield the pps owner was very interested in getting a shield himself. Who knows maybe my shield is a fluke with how good it is.
The customer service headaches people have been having with the pps m2 barrel peening issue is a knock against Walther as well.
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I have had a 9mm Shield as my primary carry gun for a couple of years and am very happy with it. Having shot a friends Ruger LCs in 9mm I will say the trigger on the LCs is much better than the Shield. For me the heavier trigger is fine for a carry gun.
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I am also on the LC9s bandwagon. Mine came with three magazine options, a standard short magazine, an extended 10-round magazine and a spare bottom plate for the short magazine with an extended pinkie finger rest on it. You can choose the option that works best for your CC needs. I have learned how to effectively use the trigger after much practice . This is a great all-around carry gun.
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