Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by lubbockdave, Aug 14, 2022.
If you're just doing this because you're bored and want to try something new, how about a 9 mm carbine, like a Beretta CX4, Ruger or even the fold-up Kel-Tec? That would get you additional inherent accuracy, more velocity from the longer barrel, etc. Still small enough to use for a home defense gun. You could easily shoot it to 50 yards, as well.
I knew I was going home with my P226 Legion 9 as soon as I felt it in my hand. YMMV
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I also have an S&W M639, if I were to apply for a CCW, probably carry that. Mine has a smooth action and stainless finish more durable IMHO
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FEG Hungarian Hi-Power. Really nice if you can find them. This one cleaned up nicely. A little Flitz, a little Ren Wax and elbow grease and the old girl looks a lot more presentable in polite company.
I'm also a fan of the Smith and Wesson Model 39-2. An elegant weapon for a more civilized time. This one is from 1970, and has been rode hard and put up wet, but still puts the rounds downrange.
2. Kahr K9 - The double action only pistol nearly feels like I'm shooting my S&W Combat Master Piece
3. Star Model B - Like a 1911 and not bad but sights aren't the best.
Shout out to the S&W 5906 too.
real hard at Springfield Armory's new version of the classic Browning Hi-Power. The CZ pistols are a good design, but they don't fit my hand as well as the classic Browning. Likewise the SIGs - except for the P210. The new ones are mechanically different than the older ones that "MADE" the P210's reputation, but they still seem like good guns. The Beretta 92 . . . I don't know about. I've got a Beretta Elite that seems to fit me well and has been 100% reliable, but for some reason in my hands it's one of the least accurate pistols in my safe. It seems tight, nothing is broken or worn, shiny barrel with no dings at the muzzle or elsewhere - but I get patterns rather than groups. Let's see, what else . . . if it's done right, a 1911 in 9mm can be a good gun; not all of them run as well as they should. (Of course, not all 1911s in .45 run as well as they should either.)
If it matters to you, not all of these come from the factory in a version with the slide already machined for a red dot sight.
And before I forget, there's one late contender - S&W just introduced a version of their Military & Police 2.0 with a metal frame. It's the same basic design as their polymer frame M&Ps so it ought to run fine.
However, it's not my preferred carry because of it's chunkiness. I've carried it before, though I don't have a holster for it (never bought one because I never figured on carrying it), but I do have a leather fanny pack that I used years ago when bicycle riding.
I have a Walther CCP M2+, but I'm not yet convinced on it as a carry piece. Story for another time.
I'm considering buying a Walther PDP F-Series based on reviews. I really like the looks of it and some of the slimmer apsects it was purposefully designed for. However, I strongly suspect my "better half" will abscond with it, which may mean me buying another one. At any rate, I need to handle one of these first to be sure I like it's fit and feel.
I've never been much of a fan of the basic CZ 75/75B either. The upper end of CZ's product line is another story, though. Some great shooters and excellent values.
Also agreed on the comments regarding the "chunkiness" of the Beretta 92. A lot of these comments are a bit out of date with the ready availability of variants with the Vertec frame (and, if necessary, thinner grips). I've also known shooters who can handle even the 92FS or M9 just fine but who struggle with the very long DA trigger reach of the CZ 75.
I love the BHP for its elegance and historical pedigree, but there's nothing special about them at all as shooters or from a build-quality standpoint. A lot of BHP love is based in nostalgia and on the JMB connection -- which isn't nearly as strong as most presume -- in my opinion. The triggers are bad to terrible (no, taking out the magazine safety doesn't make it anything close to good), the accuracy is generally nothing better than mediocre, and the older forged-frame guns in particular are made from butter-soft steel and are not very durable. What they do have going for them are superb ergonomics (for most people) and excellent reliability. Absent some expensive work from someone like Yost, Garthwaite (RIP), Burton, et al., they're pretty disappointing as range/target pistols, though, especially if you've had any experience with the finest modern 9mm pistols.
Actually, there is one exception to that -- the relatively uncommon Hi-Power GP Competition model produced from 1980 to 1987. It's pretty dated, the build quality is still nothing exceptional, and it gives up most of the regular Hi-Power's good looks, but it's a smooth, accurate shooter with a nice trigger.
Hard to beat the regular BHP for looks, though, and I've bought quite a few. Here's my unfired 1968 tangent-sight T-series from 1968 (with some Ren Wax globs/streaks):
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