Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Preacher., Dec 7, 2012.
For superior penetration works in vehicle contacts, it's the .357 SIG all the way.
9mm SD ammo gets the lions share of R&D money from the manufactures, and the bullets are usually about one generation ahead of what is in the average .357 SIG load..
All a .357 SIG will do for you anyway is make practice ammo cost prohibitive, reduce your mag capacity by a few rounds, and make you drive further to find it on a shelf somewhere.
That, and a lot more flash & muzzle blast in your bedroom at 0-Dark-30 if you ever have to really use it.
On a positive note, bottleneck cartridges feed much better & reliably in an auto pistol.
But 9mm pistols were perfected as far as feeding goes before either of us were born.
And I'm nearly 70.
The .357 Sig will be deafeningly loud if you ever need to use it inside the house. For carry, a nice little 9mm, for in the house I like .45
The big advantage for the .357 sig over 9mm is the potential for barrier penetration, but I don't think that's a big factor for the average civilian. I carry a 9, and I trust it will be more than adequate.
In other words, go with 9mm or .45 with a can.
I've tried every one of the "service calibers" in a variety of platforms. The 9x19 is, for ME, the best choice for the following reasons:
1. Highest capacity assuming similarly sized sidearms
2. Less perceived recoil (to me)
3. Lowest cost
Mag capacity is important as accuracy tends to tank when adrenaline is pumping. Lower recoil pulse equals faster additional shots (for me). Lower cost equals more training which is absolutely never a bad thing.
The .357 SIG is more powerful without doubt, but I have never once felt inadequately equipped with anything in 9x19.
Good luck with your choice and no matter what you get train, train, train and then train some more. Safe shooting!
MAG and .40S&W). I haven't switched my CCW from my .357mag revolver yet, but when I do it'll be a Glock 26 or 27 with a conversion barrel for practice in 9mm.
I really like the power of .357mag but would like to transition to an auto for CCW for increased capacity. I like that the .357sig round almost mimics the ballistics of the magnum round, however the added cost for a few hundred extra FPS can't make me justify buying into a whole new caliber. Especially when the 9mm can still do the job.
If your budget is such that you can easily afford the .357sig rounds and you want the extra power, go for it. But if you're one who's budget fluctuates or is usually favoring varied needs, go for the 9mm and maybe step up to it later. If you're looking for long term versatility, go for a .40S&W model and swap to a 9mm barrel and mags. That way you can swap to the .357sig option down the road.
To answer the original question, 16 rounds of Winchester PDX-1 in 9mm should be enough, esp. when backed up by 8 rounds of reduced recoil 00 buck in 12 gauge.
For carry, I use 7 rounds of .380 in the pocket (Bodyguard), but am considering a 9mm Kahr PM9 (available with an external safety like the Bodyguard)
Accurate shot placement is my main objective and 9mm is far easier to shoot. Especially, inside my home.
No need for the external safety on a Kahr. No energy is stored on striker spring until trigger is pulled.
Shot placement is king. Better to hit with a lower powered round since the noise of a higher powered one only startles the roaches.
In addition, do you really want the extreme noise and muzzle blast indoors that comes with .357 Sig? 9MM is loud enough.
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