9th Circuit Court Ditches Anti-gun "History" Professor

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  1. 2dogs

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    9th Circuit Court Ditches Anti-gun "History" Professor

    by Angel Shamaya
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    January 28, 2003

    KeepAndBearArms.com -- When the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled (incorrectly) in the Silveira v. Lockyer Second Amendment case, they opined that "it is this collective rights model which provides the best interpretation of the Second Amendment."

    In doing so, they cited debunked Emory University "history" professor Michael Bellesiles as justification for their historically unsound ruling.

    When California attorney Gary Gorski, representing Silveira plaintiffs, challenged their ruling, he addressed the fact that historical revisionist Bellesiles was cited by the 9th Circuit court. In his petition for a full en banc hearing (all judges on the court, as opposed to the three oath-breakers who issued the ruling), Mr. Gorski said:

    "In addition to a flawed legal analysis, the Panel erroneously relied upon the work of Dr. Michael Bellesiles, the disgraced Emory University historian and author of Arming America: The Origins of a National Gun Culture. (See Panel Decision which cites Bellesiles’ on pages 7 and 44) Bellesiles and his Arming America has been thoroughly discredited by historians and law school professors. In fact, had the Panel performed the most perfunctory research on Bellesiles’ work, the Panel would have quite easily determined that his work is simply not credible or trustworthy."

    A press release by attorney Gorski on Monday notified us that the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals had just amended their ruling -- to exclude citations from Bellesiles "before it has even ruled upon whether the petition for rehearing en banc will be granted."

    By cutting the Bellesiles citation, are Judge Reinhardt and his buddies trying to convince the rest of the court that their absurd decision is still valid?

    What we do know for sure is that the anti-gun fake -- professor Michael Bellesiles -- just got slapped in the face again. Last we heard, he was considering taking a teaching position in "Great" Britain -- where his anti-gun fanaticism is accepted and where violent thugs have no fear of disarmed subjects. Hopefully, someone has alerted Mr. Bellesiles that even the most liberal and overturned U.S. circuit court won't stand beside him. That in itself is rich and satisfying.

    Here is a link to the amended ruling submitted by Judge Reinhardt:

    Amended (and absurd) Silveira ruling

    Here is the amended text extracted from that ruling:

    ORDER

    The majority opinion filed Dec. 5, 2002,is hereby amended as follows:

    1 At Slip Op. at 7, footnote 1, replace “See Michael A. Bellesiles, Gun Control: A Historical Overview, 28 CRIME & JUST. 137, 174-76 (2001) (discussing the enactment of the National Firearms Act of 1934, ch. 757, 48 Stat. 1236 (1934) (current version codified as 26 U.S.C. §§ 5801- 72)), as a reaction to the use of machine guns by mobsters and the depiction of such violence in films such as Scarface).†with “See EARL R. KRUSCHKE, GUN CONTROL: A REFERENCE HANDBOOK 84, 170 (1995) (discussing the enactment of the National Firearms Act of 1934, ch. 757, 48 Stat. 1236 (1934) (current version codified as 26 U.S.C. §§ 5801-72), as a reaction to the use of machine guns by mobsters and “organized crime elementsâ€).â€

    2. At Slip Op. at 44, footnote 37, delete “(quoted in Michael A. Bellesiles, The Second Amendment in Action, 76 CHI.- KENT L. REV. 61, 65 (2000))†1118 SILVEIRA v. LOCKYER

    [Emphasis added, with pleasure.]

    Again, to read the latest in a long line of backhands across the face of Bellesiles, go here:

    http://keepandbeararms.com/lawsuits/Silv9thAmendedRuling.pdf

    Silveira attorney Gorski offered the following statement about the fact that these liberal judges amended their ruling:

    "Needless to say, this must have caused some serious concerns among the Three Judge Panel to amend their original opinion (which is a legal way of admitting that there was a serious and substantial flaw in the original opinion) before an order for rehearing is even granted." [emphasis added]

    REMINDER: According to Silveira attorney Gorski, NRA has reportedly been raising money out of Fairfax, Virginia, falsely saying they are helping the Silveira case when one of their attorneys (who also works for CRPA) has been undermining the case with some truly anti-freedom maneuvers.

    The full 9th circuit court may refuse to review the 3-judge panel's Silveira ruling. Even if they do, Gorski intends to appeal the case to the U.S. Supreme Court. The Petition for Certiorari for the Supreme Court hearing is in process and progressing nicely.
     
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    This just keeps getting better. What does it say about you when the 9th Circuit Court dumps on you?:what:

    Hey Mikey, don't let the door hit you ...
     
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    This is just too funny. But with serious implications.

    Gorski has already asked the 9th Circuit to reconsider this, and while they're pondering, Reinhardt is running around trying to the plug the gaping logic gaps.

    If the 9th Circuit does NOT grant a full reconsideration at this point, they'll look like idiots.

    Jim's bet: this thing will indeed get further review. Probably at the 9th (larger "En Banc" panel) and quite possibly it's gonna go to the The Nine In Dee Cee.
     
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    9th circuit are all swine.
     
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    as one who lives under many of their legally idiotic rulings, I have no love for the Cicuit..
    But to call fellow Americans who are just doing their job, misguided as they may be, swine, does the RKBA movement a disservice.
     
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    And insults pigs too. :D

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    As Jim said, these criminals in robes are trying to hide their lies by doing this. Let's see how this plays out. If there was any cause for the USSC to grant certiori, this has got to be a good one.
     
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    I'd rather the 9th not reverse the decision of the panel. It'll give us more ammunition before a real court.
     
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    This stuff just can't be made up! Revising an issued opinion is just too funny! :D

    My prediction is that the handwriting on the wall has been seen, that the full 9CA will hear it, and it will vacate the panel's decision.
     
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    I too think the 9th Circuit is gonna hear it, and do *something*.

    Danged if I know what though.

    Choices are:

    1) Support Reinhardt. Leaves us wide open for the USSC.

    2) Junk Reinhardt, and revert back to the Fresno Rifle/Hickman precidents in the 9th. Which is also founded on horrific racism (Cruikshank!) which is why Reinhardt abandoned 'em. Something else the USSC might take an interest in...

    3) Try and come up with an entirely new way of screwing us?

    4) Do like Chuck Michel wants and ditch the whole thing on standing.

    5) Support at least a limited individual right, in which case California's CCW system is TOAST :).

    6) Some other unimaginable brainfart.

    I have no clue what they'll do. Neither does Gary, and that's what scares the hell outta Chuck Michel. Sigh.
     
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    I lived under their judicial tyranny for 45 years. I stand by what I said. They do far more than their "jobs". They have always been the same, activist's who care nothing for the Constitution and would rather make law than interpret it. Too bad you still live under their thumb. If SCOTUS will take the case, all the better because the idiots in the 9th circuit are overturned more thatn any other circuit. It seems to me this circuit will be broken up soon anyway due to the massive population influx into the PRK. whether Alaska gets out is doubtful.

    Russ
     
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    When has mere dishonesty slowed down leftist extremists?
     
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    Where is the "end-zone dance" smilie?:D :p :D

    And I don't even like football.:evil:
     
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