A CZ in 10mm?
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SouthpawShootr
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I'd be interested as long as the gun went for the same price or maybe a little more than the Tangfolio Witness in 10mm. If it ends up being real expensive, forget it.
"If it ends up being real expensive, forget it."
Southpaw: Although it's a bit early for speculation, if indeed CZ produces a 97B in 10mm, then it shouldn't be priced (retail) for any more than the same gun in .45acp.
And from what I've seen, the .45 97B is pretty affordable. While retail varies, dealer price is about $475-$480.
Personally, I don't think that's bad at all for what your getting: an extremely accurate and reliable big-bore autoloader.
The reputation of CZ's autoloaders generally is that they're more reliable and more nicely finished than Tanfoglio's clones, which mimic the CZ-style without CZ's attention to detail or unit-to-unit reliability (i.e., less quality control).
If Glock's large-frame models 21 (45acp) & 20 (10mm) are any indication of industry pricing, the fixed white-dot sight units are both running the same: about $480 dealer price (again, end-user retail will vary a bit from locale to locale).
But I would expect a 97B in 10mm to be priced within a few dollars, either way, of it's .45 counterpart.
Stay tuned.
Southpaw: Although it's a bit early for speculation, if indeed CZ produces a 97B in 10mm, then it shouldn't be priced (retail) for any more than the same gun in .45acp.
And from what I've seen, the .45 97B is pretty affordable. While retail varies, dealer price is about $475-$480.
Personally, I don't think that's bad at all for what your getting: an extremely accurate and reliable big-bore autoloader.
The reputation of CZ's autoloaders generally is that they're more reliable and more nicely finished than Tanfoglio's clones, which mimic the CZ-style without CZ's attention to detail or unit-to-unit reliability (i.e., less quality control).
If Glock's large-frame models 21 (45acp) & 20 (10mm) are any indication of industry pricing, the fixed white-dot sight units are both running the same: about $480 dealer price (again, end-user retail will vary a bit from locale to locale).
But I would expect a 97B in 10mm to be priced within a few dollars, either way, of it's .45 counterpart.
Stay tuned.
Langenator
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If they make it, I will buy it...
The CZ-97 has been on my 10mm Wish List for a long time, along with the Sig 220 and HK USP...
Are any of you silly European gunmakers listening?!
The CZ-97 has been on my 10mm Wish List for a long time, along with the Sig 220 and HK USP...
Are any of you silly European gunmakers listening?!
Kamicosmos
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CZ has said many times they will not build a 10mm CZ.
Now that DW is involved, the rumor mill is running Overtime cranking out various speculation on what/when/how/and what color the 10mm CZWhatever will be made.
I just hope it's not another 1911 clone....
gunfan
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Listen people...
Bob Serva really want's to do this If he can get the "lady" president (and a nice one she is) to sign off on the expenditures, I can make at least two recommendations that will make this a resounding success;
a) Make it of the finest stainless steel available,
b) make absolutely certain that the barrel bushing does NOT wear out prematurely, or crack (as some of their 97B Models are wont to do!)
c) Purchase the Bren Ten name from Richard Voit of Peregrine Falcon industries so that shooters wil realize that they are obtaining the real, high quality "Bren Ten" they've always wanted!
Works for me!
Scott
Bob Serva really want's to do this If he can get the "lady" president (and a nice one she is) to sign off on the expenditures, I can make at least two recommendations that will make this a resounding success;
a) Make it of the finest stainless steel available,
b) make absolutely certain that the barrel bushing does NOT wear out prematurely, or crack (as some of their 97B Models are wont to do!)
c) Purchase the Bren Ten name from Richard Voit of Peregrine Falcon industries so that shooters wil realize that they are obtaining the real, high quality "Bren Ten" they've always wanted!
Works for me!
Scott
1911 TERRY
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Don't want it if they only make it in stainless steel.
Grayrider
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The stainless suggestion would also make me nervous as it creates an opening for DW to try and make it a "limited run" like they did the original RZ, thus charging way too much for it. I don't want a limited run. I want simply what is already out there: a quality CZ97 except in 10mm. Don't give DW any ideas they can gouge us like they did those that bought the "1 of 150" RZs. The 97 is priced right as-is. As for finish, offer the same ones as the 97. CZ does a very nice range of finishes that should offer something for everyone.
GR
GR
I'll second the no stainless steel. If it cost the same, I'd still buy it, but in general, I don't like it.
Personally, the point of a 97b in 10mm would be to get something that LOOKS LIKE A97B. If it looks like a rben ten, I'd avoid it like the plague.
Personally, the point of a 97b in 10mm would be to get something that LOOKS LIKE A97B. If it looks like a rben ten, I'd avoid it like the plague.
nvrquit
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Stainless or Not...
...I'd purchase at least two(though more than two would require a slightly longer time line).
In fact, it doesn't matter to me if the material is stainless of not. If stainless, okay, actually preferred. If carbon steel, it can always be sent to Tripp for the hard chrome treatment. One would be left in stock condition and one would be sent for a work over, trigger job, dehorned, night sights and anything else to make it just that much more.
CZ USA, if you are listening, please don't make a second mistake. The first was allowing the CZ40B to not continue production. The second would be to again turn a deaf ear to the resurgence in 10mm. This resurgence is building slow, but it is building.
BTW, in todays local IDPA match, I found some nice shinny 10mm brass, definitely from one of todays shooters.... and it wasn't from me. This just wasn't happening in previous years.
...I'd purchase at least two(though more than two would require a slightly longer time line).
In fact, it doesn't matter to me if the material is stainless of not. If stainless, okay, actually preferred. If carbon steel, it can always be sent to Tripp for the hard chrome treatment. One would be left in stock condition and one would be sent for a work over, trigger job, dehorned, night sights and anything else to make it just that much more.
CZ USA, if you are listening, please don't make a second mistake. The first was allowing the CZ40B to not continue production. The second would be to again turn a deaf ear to the resurgence in 10mm. This resurgence is building slow, but it is building.
BTW, in todays local IDPA match, I found some nice shinny 10mm brass, definitely from one of todays shooters.... and it wasn't from me. This just wasn't happening in previous years.
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I'd love one myself.
Langenator
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I'm not currently looking to buy a new pistol, what with C&Rs and EBRs eating my gun budget, but if CZ were to announce that they'd be making on, I'd start saving my pennies.
Ditto goes for HK and Sig, but my safe is currently lacking a CZ platform, which would put them at the front of the line.
Ditto goes for HK and Sig, but my safe is currently lacking a CZ platform, which would put them at the front of the line.
armoredman
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We could only hope....that DW factory right here in the US might make things a little eaiser....
Ivy Mike
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Is the CZ97 burly enough to handle full house 10mm loads? I know springs can be changed, but will the frame and slide take the punishment?
I'd buy a 10mm CZ
I'd buy a 10mm CZ
Peter M. Eick
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You obviously have never handled a 97b then. These guns are huge. Big, beefy, heavy and probably the best platform I have seen for the 10mm in an autoloader. I had a 97b in 45 and it was so overbuilt it was funny. I finally sold it to a buddy and he loves it.
If it had been a 10mm I would not have sold it!
If it had been a 10mm I would not have sold it!
George Hill
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Can a CZ97B handle 10MM?
Yes.
If you put in proper spring weights, then it can handle anything.
Yes.
If you put in proper spring weights, then it can handle anything.
W Turner
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A CZ97 in 10mm you say?
I'd hop on one foot naked down the highway while singing " I'm a Little Teapot" to get one.....
I would like to apologize for the mental image I just created.....
W
I'd hop on one foot naked down the highway while singing " I'm a Little Teapot" to get one.....
I would like to apologize for the mental image I just created.....
W
GreenFurniture
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I've been lusting after a 97 for a long time, and if they came out with it in 10mm the lust would turn to love and I'd have to get a couple.
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