A gun similar to a glock but without the sharp grip angle?

[beeenbag]

Let me clarify your interpretation of my "second sentence"..... I've owned a sigma, matter of fact owned before I did a glock, and its very clear that s&w, which I own several of and love them, made a glock "copy" to stay competitive, can't blame them its just a cheaper version of that "style" of pistol. (see I didn't say glock) but in all reality there are plenty of that style out there now that are great guns. I just can't put sigma in that same class as the xd, glock, m&p, even the newer ruger sr9. I still love ya tho you crazy man and of course this is just my opinion, it doesn't amount to a hill of beans

 

[harmon rabb]

it's called a springfied xd. as a bonus, it has a much nicer trigger than a glock.

 

[Rail Driver]

S&W Sigma

I carry one. It's got the same 15 degree angle as a 1911. My .40 carries 14+1.

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

The new S&W SD series looks good on paper.

 

[Oldnoob]

There are many worthy Glock substitute out there. Just on top of my head: S&W M&Pc, XDsc, XDm 3.8, Beretta PX4sc, Steyr S-A1.

 

[Sebastian the Ibis]

Why don't you get the glock you want and have the grip adjusted as you like. It seems like everyone around here has taken down the backstrap and stippled the handle.
http://www.robarguns.com/glock.htm, does the work, but I am sure there are people closer to you if you want to get it done cheaper. I didn't like the glock grip when I got mine, so I got a houge slip on rubber grip. However, I took it off a few months ago and it feels fine without it.

If you want a non-glock think Kahr and Kel-tec in addition to the options already mentioned. Both are great carry pistols, come in 9mm and function like a glock.

 

[DeepSouth]

Get an XD or a MP.

 

[dwhite]

Sigma.

Better grip angle than the Glock IMHO.

All the Best,
D. White

 

[CZ223]

I never understood the whole grip angle thing

and I switch back and forth between my Glock 23/32's and my 5 1911's. Secondly, I really don't understand this whole "too nice to carry" mentality. I had this exact conversation in a gunshop yesterday. Another guy was saying that his $1000 dollar Colts were too nice to carry. I told him that my $1300 Kimber Eclipse Pro Target was at least as nice looking as his Colts and it was on my hip at the time. If I can afford a gun I can afford to carry it. That is what they are meant for. I don't care if it is a Wilson, Nighthawk or Baer. The only handgun I won't carry is one that is not reliable.

 

[Runningman]

I'm looking for a ccw gun. I like everything about the Glock, especially the G19, except the sharp grip angle. I really do not like the way it feels in my hand. I love my Eclipse II but its too nice, I need a beater for ccw. I need a rugged gun that I don't mind beating up. Reliable. Polymer. High capacity. Good for ccw. What should I get guys?

SR9C Just picked one up for $419. I figured for the price I wouldn't have to worry about beating it up. Has many good features for the price. The SR9c has one of the better triggers of the current polymer framed guns out there right now, with the exception of Glock competition series such as the G17L, G24, G34, G35. The SR9c I picked up trigger measured 4 LB 14 OZ right out of the box. http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-SR9C.htm

The S&W M&P and the compact version is decent pistol with very good ergonomics. But the trigger was a bit much for my tastes so I put a $30 APEX Hard Sear in it. Did wonders for the trigger.

I would avoid the Sigma those 8+ pound triggers make them terrible a choice if you want to actually hit what you are ammimg at.

The XD and XDM are not bad guns just wished the had a little better trigger on them.

 

[JDGray]

I like everything about the Glock, especially the G19, except the sharp grip angle. I really do not like the way it feels in my hand. I love my Eclipse II but its too nice

The Glock and 1911 share the same grip angle, so its not the angle that makes the Glock uncomfortable. 1911s have a football shaped grip, where as the glock is an oval shape, filling out your hand more. If it wasn't for the hump at the back of the Glock frame, or the fatness, it would be more comfy for some of us. A G36 feels darn good to me, however!

 

[smince]

I don't get the grip-angle thing. I can shoot a Glock, 1911, DA revolver, etc equally well without any so-called 'grip angle' problems.

Draw the gun, line up the sights (or point shoot), squeeze the trigger, hit the target. And yes, I've taken classes with these various handguns, shot matches, under time/speed.

I don't get the problem

(the only handgun grip that gives me problems is the Desert Eagle )

 

[Jed Carter]

I would rethink the G19, I can put 7 rounds into a USPSA target that is visible for just over 1 second. I was using a G34 with the 5 3/8" barrel, the grip angle contributes to this ability. The Glock was made for combat, or just plain shooting fast and on target. But if you want alternatives that will give the Glock a run for the money then skip the M&P and XD, try H&K P30, Walther P99, SIG P250, or FNH FNP / FNX. Personaly I went all metal and daily carry a CZ 75D PCR...Sweet!

 

[danez71]

For me, I chose the m&p 9c

I tried to like the G26. I really did. I wanted one. I knew I could make peace with the grip angle in fairly short order.

But size of the grip and the trigger reach seemed better for me on the M&P 9c. The trigger dingy on the Glock seemed to make it worse to.... seemed to get in the way as I 'reached' for the trigger.

I dont have that issue with the M&P9c. That issue, to me, is a bigger issue than the grip angle.

As a bonus, for me, I got one with the thumb safety as it keeps it consistant with my BHP that I'll never part with.

 

[mljdeckard]

The one problem the Sigma DOES solve is grip angle. Having said that, it was the worst handgun I have ever owned, and I wept with joy when I got raped on trading it in.

I haven't shot an M&P, but lots of people seem to love them. I would look hard at an XD.

And yes, beat it up. It needs to be dinged and worn from non-stop training and the fact that you never leave it home.

 

[Uncle Mike]

If you don't fancy a Glock, don't sweat it, Glocks are not the handgun by which all handguns are judged. The Gen.4 Glocks seem to fair better as to grip preference, so I have been told. hehehe

Still a clunky glob of plastic!

Try a HK, XDM, XD, M&P, STI or a FNH.

 

[hso]

If a 1911 grip angle works for you and the 1911 manual of arms is what you're used to then you should get another handgun with the same features. You are betting your life on a carry gun and switching to something that you're not familiar with doesn't make a lot of sense.

What's wrong with getting another Kimber if you like the Eclipse II so much?

 

[76shuvlinoff]

I don't get the grip-angle thing. I can shoot a Glock, 1911, DA revolver, etc equally well without any so-called 'grip angle' problems. Draw the gun, line up the sights (or point shoot), squeeze the trigger, hit the target.

Glad someone else said it, my feelings too. I have never owned a Glock but I have shot 9mm .40 and .45 Glocks and I still seem to hit the paper. Same with my XD40sc, fullsize Kimber .45 and Ruger Blackhawk .357. Of course there are obvious differences, personal preferences and prejudices but honestly, what the hell is the big deal?

 

[youngun38]

you may wanna check out tuarus' line of millinium or their 24/7 series while 3-4 hundred is a bit hefty to some they are a very fine quality gun and i would be glad to trust either of them with my life

 

[Red Cent]

lordy, I gotta quit reading these threads. I thought I wanted a G34 but now.....
I shoot a Colt 1911 kinda good.
I shoot a 3-screw Ruger Blackhawk pretty darned good.
My S&W 39 and 59 feels good and I can do pretty good with them.
My M10 357 mag points good (well is not good. I'm not sick)
It comes down to familiarity, doesn't it? I have carried a 1911for thirty years. Muscle memory.
It would take a radical grip to radically interfere with my ability to shoot good.

What Smince and 76 said.

 

[Shadow 7D]

Lots and lots of them

google wonder 9's

CZ's
S&W MP
HK
Lots and Lots

Gives you a reason to fondle the merchandise, and maybe even go to a big box store to try one out.

 

[71Commander]

Thanks kingofthehill.

I thought Glocks were the ugliest guns ever made but you found one uglier.

 

[PX4 Storm]

Not exactly similar to a Glock, but this works for me, the FNH FNX-9. 17 rounds in the mag, plus one in the chamber, DA/SA, with manual safety, which allows for "cocked and locked" carry, and ships with three mags:

 

[MisterMike]

I'm don't actually get the grip angle thing. Could someone explain? Is the perception that the grip angle is too acute or too obtuse relative to the slide? I'm serious in asking this question, as I do not understand.

I've got six handguns, three of them Glocks, and the grip angle has never struck me as uncomfortable or unnatural, compared to any other handgun I've owned or shot. However, their grips are fat, which I think could present a problem for many.

 

[basicblur]

I'm don't actually get the grip angle thing. Could someone explain? Is the perception that the grip angle is too acute or too obtuse relative to the slide?

Well it's been a loooooong time, but first time I picked up a Glock, I kinda grimaced and thought "something ain't right"-when I closed my eyes and brought it up to a firing position (something I do along with my dry fire drills) it was not on target-since all my other guns point naturally, they've always been pretty darn close to being on target with eyes closed.
If memory serves, the Glock had a steeper angle, and muscle memory tended to have me aiming high.
After a lot of research, I walked outta the shop with a Sigma...
I understand some Glocks have different grip angles, but it doesn't matter to me at this point, since (angle aside) there are other options I liked better over the years (XD, etc).

I've got six handguns, three of them Glocks, and the grip angle has never struck me as uncomfortable or unnatural, compared to any other handgun I've owned or shot. However, their grips are fat, which I think could present a problem for many.

Apparently you learned on Glocks or just have a Glock wrist? I grew up on 1911s-the Glock just didn't work for me.
Fat grips ain't never been a problem for me. A lot of the Rugers I hear folks raving about I've picked up and thought they were "too" skinny-guess I've become accustomed to fatter/double stack mags over the years.

Ain't nothing wrong with Glocks, but some folks:
1. Don't have the wrist for it.
2. Don't see the need to have a different angled grip (muscle memory donchaknow).
3. There ARE other choices out there these days.