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A List of all manufactures with DA/SA Pistols currently in Production

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Kaybee, Jul 9, 2018.

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  1. Kaybee

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    Hello, for your reference, here is a list of all Manufactures/Importers that offer hammer fired DA/SA pistols, that:

    1. Have a decocker

    2. Are currently in production.

    3. Are available in the USA.


    I listed a couple examples for each, and you can go to their web site to see a more complete list of their current models.

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    BerettaOffers a huge variety of DA/SA pistols in different calibers. Their modern polymer PX4 Storm (2004) has a rotating barrel. Their all metal 92 series has a long track record with the US military. Both have slide mounted decockers and come in a variety of configurations. Also of note is their Cheetah, which is a classic blowback pistol that can come with a frame mounted safety-decocker.

    http://www.beretta.com/en-us/pistols/

    BersaBersa is known for it’s Bersa thunder, which is a blowback pistol with a slide mounted decocker. They also have a range of da/sa pistols in other calibers. One example is their recently released TPR9C (2016) in 9mm. Their guns are known for being affordable and very reliable.

    https://bersa.eagleimportsinc.com/bersa/firearms/


    CZ-USACZ USA offers a huge variety of metal and polymer pistols. Some of their models are NATO approved. Examples range from their their full sized, all metal CZ-75 SP-01 to their compact, polymer CZ-P07 (2014) Gen 2. Their Omega trigger system allows some models to be converted between DA/SA to SA without a gunsmith.

    http://cz-usa.com/product-category/handguns/

    FNFN currently offers their FNX Series in all major calibers. Their FNX-45 Tactical (2014) comes suppressor ready and holds an exceptional amount of 15 rounds in .45 acp.

    https://fnamerica.com/pistols/fnx-series/

    Grand Power – Grand powers is a Slovakian company that specializes in polymer competition pistols, and it does offer some tactical models as well. They are imported by Eagle Imports. Their K100 9mm has a rotating barrel for reduced recoil. Their K22 is a full sized .22 pistol.

    https://grandpower.eagleimportsinc.com/grandpower/firearms/


    Heckler and KochA German company offering a variety of high end, modern, polymer DA/SA pistols designed for the police and military. Two examples are the P30 and HK45.

    https://hk-usa.com/product/pistols/


    Israel Weapons Industries (IWI)Jericho pistols are used by the IDF and IDF special forces. They use a version with a frame mounted saftey, but IWI does offer versions with a slide mounted saftey-decockers. They are available both in all steel and polymer frames.

    https://iwi.net/jericho/

    Kriss USA - Kriss USA imports the SPHINX pistols, which are compact 9mm pistols with a frame mounted decocker. They were developed by the Swiss and modeled after the cz-75.

    https://kriss-usa.com/

    Magnum Research - Is known for it’s massive .50 AE Desert Eagle. It also has the Baby Desert Eagle which comes both in metal and polymer frames. The baby eagle is essentially the same gun as the IWI Jericho.

    https://www.magnumresearch.com/

    Ruger - Ruger currently makes their very popular SR22 (2012), a .22 caliber sa/da pistol with a frame mounted decocker. Its offered in a variety of colors and barrel lengths.

    https://www.ruger.com/products/sr22Pistol/models.html

    Sig SauerOffers a huge line of DA/SA pistols in a variety of sizes and calibers. Two examples would be their P226 Legion which is a high end all metal gun, or their sp2022 which is an affordable polymer pistol.

    https://www.sigsauer.com/full-product-catalog/all-pistols/

    Springfield ArmoryHas the single stack, polymer XDE line, which is designed for concealed carry. It is less than an inch thick. It has a frame mounted decocker but can also be carried "cocked and locked". It is currently offered in 9mm (2017) and .45acp (2018).

    https://www.springfield-armory.com/xde-series/

    Taurus THTaurus now has their new TH series pistols (2018). In the U.S. it is currently offered in both full sized and compact versions of 9mm. They also make the PT92, which is a Beretta 92 clone. Taurus is known for making affordable pistols.

    https://www.taurususa.com/gun-selector-results.cfm?series=TH&toggle=tp

    Walther - Walther offers a few DA/SA pistols. Their PPK is a classic, all steel, blowback 380 pistol, and their P22 Gen 2 (2017) is a polymer .22 pistol. Both have slide mounted safety decockers.

    http://www.waltherarms.com/handguns/

    Arex - Arex started as a Slovanian tool company, but now makes defense products. Their first pistol, the Rex Zero, looks similar to the Sig Sauer P226.

    http://www.arex.si/weapons/

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    Honorable Mentions:

    The Walther P99, Canik TP9DA gen 2, Magnum Research MR9, these are all examples of striker fired guns with a decocker. They have features similar to a hammer fired da/sa gun.

    EAA currently only offers sa/da guns that are safety-only, but until fairly recently they offered several models of pistols with a decocker. (For example: The Zastava EZ9, EAA Witness, and Tangfolio all either had decocker or once had a version with decockers).

    Smith and Wesson and Ruger are two big companies that offered a variety of metal DA/SA pistols in the past, many are still commonly available on the used market.

    Stoeger, for a time, manufactured the Cougar, which was developed by Beretta.

    Lionheart Industries pistols do not have a decocker, but you can physically push their hammers back forward for a longer single action pull.

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    My questions to you all:

    1. Did I miss any? Let me know!

    2. Which are your favorites?

    2. Have a nice photo of any pistols from these manufactures? Please add them here!
     
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  2. JeeperCreeper

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    Good list!

    Another Mention: Stoeger Cougar and Taurus PT92. Probably should be an add-on to the Beretta
     
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  3. Kaybee

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    Thanks! I don't believe Stoeger still manufactures the Cougar but I will add it to the honorable mentions!
     
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    That's sad... I guess you're right... their website must have just faded out production with little hooplah
     
  5. JTQ

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    Just a point of order (man, I hate being "Mr. Language Person", but this never seems to end) - I see lots people use the SA/DA terminology and I often wonder why? The term is DA/SA. SA/DA isn't even in alphabetical order, which I could possibly understand (no - not really). It really is like fingernails on a chalkboard.

    These guns start out in Double Action (DA) mode, with the first shot double action, and subsequent shots Single Action (SA). Hence the term, DA/SA. I can't think of any gun (I'm sure there are some, and somebody will point them out, but that is beside the point) that starts out Single Action, with the first shot, and then becomes Double Action with all subsequent shots, which is why manufactures don't use the term SA/DA, because it would be an inaccurate depiction of how these guns operate.
     
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  6. Kaybee

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    Good point, I will correct that. Perhaps I just get more excited about the SA part. ;)
     
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    CZ PCR, like the one on my hip currently.
     
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  8. dodo bird

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    S&W needs to bring back their da/sa pistols. Thanks for the rundown of currently available guns.
     
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  9. lsudave

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    I'm thinking Canik/TriStar is still making the CZ clones, isn't there a decocker model?

    Also, Arex still making Rex Zero, which has both a decocker and safety, in separate locations (think Sig P226, which the Sig's slide release instead as a safety, and the decocker doubling as a slide release also).
    And I think somebody somewhere is still selling the Zastava CZ999/EZ9 whatever it's called, basically the same as the Arex but without the safety.
     
  10. Kaybee

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    Thanks for the reminder about the Arex. I'll add it right now.

    As far as I know, the Canik/Tristars are all safety only, and I believe the Zastava EZ9 is no longer imported by EAA. Though I could be wrong?
     
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    Perception vs. Reality:

    I Love DA/SA and I have a lot of Sigs. But your list got me wondering. I sometimes carry Sig p290RS, Nice finish in what they call ORB with G-10 grips. In every measure, it is smaller and MUCH lighter than the PPK/S. Also, it's 9mm!

    Every review of the P290RS will go on about how thick and 'chunky' it is (I'm fine with it, obviously) and many reviews will love the design of the PPK/S. I myself am still craving a PPK/S :(

    Yet:

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    btw, I realize the PPK/S is DA/SA and the p290RS is not. It just seemed like the right time to vent a little. I don't know if the PPK/S safety functions as a decocker like the S&W 3rd gens.
     
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  12. lsudave

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    regarding the TriStar and decocking, I don't know... it's not a big issue for me. I like DA/SA in a metal frame. I THOUGHT that they had something similar to the CZ 75BD, but maybe not.

    Re the wayward Zastava offering, it's no longer EAA, but wasn't that long ago I found FIME group importing it (along with the Arex). Doesn't seem to be the case anymore.

    It's kinda weird for it not to be available in the US, since we're probably the #1 market by a huge margin, for civilian sales. Same goes for the Polish PR-15; you'd think someone would find a way to get some in, and I'm sure they'd sell quite well.
     
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    I hate decockers. Won't have a pistol with one.
     
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    JTQ writes:

    I'll be picky, too. ;) They only "start out in Double Action (DA) mode" if the hammer is lowered (manually, or with a decocker) after the first-up round is chambered. They probably should have originally been dubbed something like "SA, with optional DA."

    Oh, and Taurus does make one that has a single-action mechanism but, if it's dry-fired or a round fails to fire, can be tried again from an "at-rest" position, effectively a DA pull. It's a striker-fired, but it's the only one like that that comes to mind. I can't remember which model it is, though.
     
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    This mechanism (DA/SA), though not the most practical for my carry habits, is my favorite in autoloading pistols. I, too, liked the S&W ones, particularly the 639 and the Gen-3 ones, like the 4506. I like 'em in all steel.

    Of the still-in-production ones listed, all I have is the Beretta 21A and the Bersa Thunder in .380ACP. Others I have no longer in production include the Bulgarian PM, Radom P64, CZ70, and Ruger P95. A 4506 or CZ75 would be another "want" of mine.
     
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    The PT-132 I recently bought is that way. "Restrike" capability is how I think they advertise it.
     
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    DA/SA is a dying breed. It takes more effort on the part of the shooter to master the DA/SA transition. It has some advantages but I believe its time has passed. I still love my DA/SA guns and am not looking to sell them but i see a time in the near future where the platform as no longer in production like DAO hammer fired guns.
     
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    Ha! So dramatic. And old news. We’ve been hearing that for decades yet some people still prefer them so there are plenty of classic models and new innovative models to choose from as well. Browse the list again with that in mind.

    Even if they aren’t the most popular, the great thing about this country is that if the market is there, they’ll be available.
     
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    That PR-15 is awesome!!!! I never saw it before. I need that gun....

    As far as DA/SA dying off, I was thinking they have been making a comeback. I think it ebbs and flows...
     
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    A dying breed you say? I’m not holding my breath that DA/SA is going the way of the dodo.

    I get the feeling they are getting more looks these days.
     
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    Really look at Sig and Beretta the King and Queen of the DA/SA platform are both moving towards striker fired tactical plastic. LEO and Govt contracts drive the market because of economy of scale. The last DA/SA gun to win a big contract was the Sig SP2022 and that was in 2002. Striker fired DAO guns dominate the US LEO market. I hate to say it but the commercial market in the US does not drive the market. It is the secondary market vs large scale Govt and LEO contracts. We benefit from it in many ways but it also can kill platforms.

    Look at the list and compare it to how many people offer DAO striker fired guns.....
     
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    I have no data on this, but my impression is that we have a new generation of shooters coming up that seem a lot more willing to put the time in to “get good” and they seem a lot more willing to research what they want as well. I wonder if any connect with da sa pistols and if that has any effect on the market.
     
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    It has some effect but not as much as a large LEO department buying 500 Glock 19s or the US Army buying the P320 and calling it the XM17. The economy of scale created by these type of contracts cannot be overcome or ignored by the manufacturers. Look at the Glock 19X. It didn't even win the Army pistol trials but the R&D that when into it is driving the commercial demand for the pistol. All the new shooters are not going to overcome that.

    I am not saying I am happy with this but it is the reality that we face. In the end for me I have all the DA/SA guns I could ever want. I have enough Sigs, CZs, Sphinx, S&Ws etc..... to keep my DA/SA flame alive well after I am worm food. I am not sure we will be able to say the same for the "new generation." YMMV
     
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    Applying your arguments to other guns, the 1911 should have completely disapeared a long long time ago. Obviously thats a different market but they dont seem to be going anywhere either.

    As far as Sig and others adding nice striker fired guns to their lineup, I think a better way to read the trend is that large manufacturers want to have options that will appeal to a lot of different types of shooters. $
     
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  25. Kaybee

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    This is totally random, but since were talking about it, I think the PX4 storm would sell even better if it didn’t look like a hair dryer.
     
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