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A pellet pistol for practice inside during winter.

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by clutch, Nov 21, 2010.

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  1. clutch

    clutch Member

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    Winter is coming, I need to work on my pistol shooting to become a better off hand shooter.

    I want an air pistol that shoots pellets that is under say 500 bucks that has good sights, accuracy, trigger, ect.

    I need recommendations. I haven't kept up on this are their spring guns, co2 guns and charged air models out there?

    What should I look at? I used 500 as my upper limit but a decent pellet pistol that cost less would not upset me a bit.

    I'm never going to be an Olympic shooter or competitive due to age and eyesight, I just want to get better by practice.

    Thanks,

    Clutch
     
  2. MrWesson

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    If you want to shoot your .22 rifle then aguila super colibri is your answer

    If you want to shoot a .22 pistol then aguila colibri

    I think the airgun is a good idea too.
     
  3. gofastman

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    REGULAR colibris are so much fun out of a pistol! very quiet, i shoot them in my garage

    btw, CCI CB Longs are almost identical in noise level to super colibris out of a rifle, but pack significantly more power.

    skip the Remington CBees, too loud.
     
  5. MrBorland

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    I can't recommend shooting either of the Colibris indoors because of the lead compounds in the primer.

    As far as air pistol recommendations, you have a ton of options, and which is best for you depends on what exactly it is you're trying to work on: You might want "an air pistol that shoots pellets that is under say 500 bucks that has good sights, accuracy, trigger, ect.", but for what? USPSA practice? An airsoft clone might be the way to go. Pure target practice to work on your fundamentals? If so, single shot? Repeater?

    FWIW, I have an IZH-46M - an excellent 10m air pistol for the money. I can recommend it if marksmanship fundamentals is what you're interested in.

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    I think this is also an excellent recommendation. Learning to shoot an air pistol well will make you a superior pistol shooter. Due to it's low muzzle velocity, nothing teaches follow through better than an air pistol
     
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    I also have a IZH-46M. It will probably group smaller at 10 meters than any cartridge firearm made. The trigger is superb and the gun is an absolute pleasure to shoot. This fine handgun costs around $375.

    If you shoot revolvers, Umrex makes a CO2 copy of the 686/586 Smith and Wessons. It is licensed by Smith and Wesson and has all the Smith and Wesson markings on it. It is often considered the cadillac of CO2 sport pistols and is quite accurate. It feels like, loads, and operates just like the real thing. Price, I believe is a little less that $250.

    Both are available from Pyramid Air.Com.
     
  8. Pete D.

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    Another vote for the IZH-46M....I have one also. The best buy in quality air pistols.
    Spend a winter shooting an air pistol at the standard 10m target and you will be a better pistol shot in the Spring.
    My slow fire scores especially went up after a winter shooting air.
    Pete
     
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    hmmm, didn't consider that :uhoh: , I guess i should start wearing a respirator.
     
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    A number of people have talked about making basement ranges, an idea is to drape the path with vapor barrier and just run a good exhaust fan to vent the lead.
     
  11. clutch

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    It looks like I may want two air guns. One to practice rapid fire and another to work on basic accuracy as in deliberate fire.

    I don't plan to shoot classic one hand bullseye, I'd rather shoot two handed, since that is how I normally shoot.

    The spring pistol many endorsed looks like it is normally shot one handed but a bit of grip work could change that.

    Is there a place for one hand shooting in a training regimen if you are a two hand shooter? If I get good with one hand will my two handed shooting be better?

    Thanks,

    Clutch
     
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    Any practice that will improve your trigger control/management will make your shooting better. Trigger control is more important to accurate shooting than sight alignment, grip or stance. If the other 3 are perfect and you lack trigger control, you still won't hit your target...that's why lasers aren't a replacement as sighting devices
     
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    Wear eye protection
     
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    I would look into airsoft. I have two, a WE 1911 Caspian license, and a KWA M9 (Baretta) PTP (Professional Training Pistol). Both are full metal frames, very nice fit and finish, and astoundingly accurate and powerful at 10 yards. Weight and balance are very close to the real gun. They are both a blow back action design, which emulates the slide action of the real deal. The only accessories you need are an adapter to fill your mags with propane cylinders and some pure silicone oil you add on top of the fill port to lube the action.
    The only fault I find with these guns is the trigger pull is very light, but has minimal pre travel and very crisp-a delight to shoot, but doesn't have the feel of the real thing.
    These can be had for $150 or less- I love mine.
     
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    +1 Some of the worst ricochets happen when I shoot my airguns.
     
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    I also have the Crosman American Classic pump pistol, 1" groups at 25 yards and enough power to kill a squirrel. I wish I could put a scope on it.
     
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    Beeman P1 or the Weihrauch equivalent.

    Same grip as a 1911, powerful accurate etc..
     
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    Single-stroke pneumatics like the IZH-46 are excellent easy-shooting airguns. Excellent for target.

    The Beeman P1/Weihrauch HW45 might be a better firearm trainer. It's heavy, kicks, and actually is quite a pain in the ass to shoot repetitively. If you can put a string of 10 shots close together with a P1 you can shoot anything. The gun itself is very accurate but _really_ powerful spring pistols are incredibly sensitive to your grip.
     
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    I have and use a Daisy 747 air pistol. Good sights, food trigger and good fit in my hand. I mostly use it to practice sight alignment. The fact it makes it easy to hit the target is nice also.

    Daisy also offers (or offered) a couple variaitons of the same basic pistol.
     
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    The Drozd is fun (have one) but it won't do much for the OP's stated goal of improving his offhand shooting.
     
  23. Justin

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    Airsoft guns can be useful for some force on force training, but not so useful for practicing marksmanship skills.

    The Drozd is a neat toy, but still a toy.

    If you're interested in refining your shooting abilities, get an IZH46M target pistol. They're the most accurate air gun short of making the leap to $1K+ Olympic-grade match guns.

    The grips are kind of funky, though, so you may want to break out the Dremel to do a bit of polishing here and there.
     
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    The accuracy is the whole thing, isn't it? Other options would be good for other modes of practice but to practice for trigger consistency and accuracy you need an accurate pellet gun. Those other things are basically just toys. The Walther PPK BB gun that I bought in a moment of idiocy is pretty much a toy since it groups like a shotgun at more than 5 feet.

    Even if you're working on your IPSC or IDPA draw and first shot time you need a gun that is going to be decently accurate or you won't know if your sight picture was OK or not.

    Oh, and the Walter BB gun is still with me because up here I'm not allowed to own the real thing due to restrictions. So the BB gun is the closest I'll get to having a PROPER James Bond gun... :D
     
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  25. Dudemeister

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    The idea was to shoot indoors wasn't it? Unless you live in a large barn, I would suggest that the targets would be within 25-30 feet or less.

    At that distance there are plenty of airsoft guns that will cut the black out of the target. There are many gas powered pistols that are fantastic replicas of the real thing, look like, and feel like the real thing. About the only thing you don't get is the loud bang and the recoil.

    For those that like semi-autos, I can recommend the Umarex Walther P99 and P99C, the KSC Glocks 23F or 18C, and any number of 1911 and Berettas from companies like Marushin, Maruzen, Tokyo Marui, Tanaka, KSC, Western Arms and others. Companies like Tanaka and Marushin license a variety of guns from the likes of Colt, S&W & Ruger and make flawless copies of famous revolvers.

    A good quality Airsoft pistol can set you back a couple hundred dollars or more, but I think they're super fun and worth every penny.

    Here are some of my airsoft handguns

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