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A Pro-Rights Redditor Attends a Meeting of Anti-Gun Activists

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Justin, Jan 20, 2013.

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  1. Justin

    Justin Moderator Staff Member

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    THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL
    I found the following field report quite interesting. Reddit user MetastaticCarcinoma does an excellent job of showing what we're up against.

    http://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/16tlj4/field_report_i_infiltrated_a_gungrabbers_meeting

    With permission from the original author, I've reposted the essay in its entirety, as well as uploaded the documents he acquired and then made available. If you're a Reddit member, please follow the link and upvote the original post.

    We really shouldn't let ourselves be beaten by people who think that Comic Sans is an acceptable font.
     

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  2. buckeye8

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    I enjoyed that, good insight.

    You left out the best part:

     
  3. jamesbeat

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    'Don't bother using facts...'

    That's an interesting point.

    Antis evidently don't care about facts, or they wouldn't be antis.
     
  4. Steel Horse Rider

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    I made a career of attending left wing "public" meetings and asking the obvious questions in Ft Collins in the 1990's and early 2000's. It was a very educational experience and they will readily admit their intended end game when they are in friendly confines. I was threatened a few times but I always reminded them that they were supposed to be agents of "tolerance and diversity". I made sure I signed their register and got my e-mail address on their lists so I could stay informed before I left. I still am receiving e-mails from the Colorado Progressive Coalition asking for money or informing me of their rallys and plans.
     
  5. Lateck

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    Thanks, Justin.
    A good read.

    Lateck,
     
  6. SiteManager

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    What kind of cookies do they eat?
     
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    Wow, they are claiming that twenty of the last mass murderers had carry permits.
     
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    Let's stick with the truth.

    I know all to well what we are up against. They will even drop their morals to "win".
     
  9. wacki

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    Those pamphlets quote facts that are at odds with what I've heard elsewhere.

    Didn't the crime rate in Australia increase after the ban?

    http://youtu.be/fGaDAThOHhA

    And don't CCW people commit few crimes than cops?

    From the Atlantic:

    Anyone got more reliable sources on the above?
     
  10. wacki

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    I never got this argument. As long as it's easy to read I don't care what font they use. Can someone send me a PM (to avoid hijacking) explaining why this is so offensive?

    I use Ariel, Minion and Times New Roman btw.

    Edit: Someone just sent me this link

    http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2005/06/comic-sans-the-font-of-the-gods.html

    I still don't get the intensity of the hate, but then again I was never one for Pomp and Circumstance and other formalities. It's easy to read font. I'd never choose it, but being easy to read is the only thing that matters to me. Oh well, I will conform.
     
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    Just don't drop them any hints on how to defeat the "penalizing law abiding gun owners for the actions of a madman" scenario.
     
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    Am I the only one pondering the obvious here? Have you been invited to a Pro Gun meeting? What strategies are we forming? Have we developed buzzwords to bring people over to our side? I didn't think Obamacare would get passed by Congress and it did, once the truth started coming out about Benghazi (spelling?) I didn't think "they" could continue to hide and get a free pass but they did, I didn't think Obama would be reelected and he was. I didn't think the Republicans in Congress would cave in on the fiscal cliff and they did.

    I watched Rick Santorum on George Stephonopolis' show this morning. Rick never landed a decent punch and he let the converstaion get diverted to armor piercing bullets, a question he obviously wasn't prepared to answer. George Will did an okay job but neither of them ever used the possibility of multiple attackers as a defense for standard capacity magazines. To me this seems like an obvious counter-argument but I haven't heard any of our "leaders" or mouthpieces voice that argument.

    I strongly disagree with the premise that we can win this by fighting as millions of individual voices singing different songs rather than uniting around a credible Point Person with a clear, succinct message. We are about to get our hats and arses handed to us.
     
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    So, WHO is our leader?
     
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    Our side doesn't "community organize" as well as the other one does. Individuality is a double edged sword.
     
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    It's not the cookies that matter. It's the kool-aid that they drink that's dangerous.
     
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    Exactly what type of grip doesn't protrude from something?

    ****

    I've resisted the urge to drop my level of argument to the lowest common denominator of "emotion" because it is STUPID, however sometime we must fight fire with fire. I can certainly come up with emotional reasons to counter the anti's emotionalism. Once you think about it, it's pretty easy.
     
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    Thanks for sharing that, Justin.
     
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    I'm just hoping to one day understand this "TL;DR" term. Reddit speak for bottom line.
     
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    Too Long; Didn't Read
     
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    When encountered with a long piece of text you do not want to spend time reading, look for tl;dr (too long; didnt read) which usually provides a nice little summary in layman's terms.
     
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    This cannot be repeated often enough.
     
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    That's a good point about facts not working on people who use Comic Sans as a serious font.

    I used to work for a company that used Comic Sans for business communication, but it was an ice cream company, so a light-hearted font was more acceptable.
     
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    Wow! What a revelation!!! Never had any idea Comic Sans was the Glock of the font world!
     
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    This really makes me wish I was rich so I could donate a million dollars to the NRA-ILA.
     
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