A question about restocking a Savage Axis

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  1. 3Crows

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    I am not sure why you would be on a forum for guns if you mean nothing and we mean nothing? Why then? You can see that many posters have tremendous experience easily enough.

    And there is no maybe to it, Boyds does offer solid walnut stocks in at least three grades, higher grades are expensive, the basic walnut not so much. And I know of many folks who have bought them so I cannot say you are right on not being known for wooden solid walnut stocks, at least we knew of it, but then we are nothing I guess. There are six solid wood options listed for the Axis including one maple:

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    When a person is wrong or insists on questioning good information, why not say cool, or yes I was wrong. It is okay to be wrong and graceful and you are and are not.

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  2. Varminterror

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    @David Hoback - it’s pretty simple… Boyd’s website is older than their offering of solid walnut stocks… solid walnut stocks are a relatively new product offering from them.

    I suppose it’s not so simple if you’re looking for something to complain about online and devalue the input of those with more direct product experience than yourself, however.
     
  3. wombat13

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    That's hard to believe. .223 has hardly any recoil so that stock can't be flexing much. I have the Axis II in .25-06 with about 3x more recoil than a .223 and that plastic stock works just fine 1 moa out to 200 yards (as far as I've shot it) with 100 grain factory ammo.
     
  4. wombat13

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    Does 6.5 CM have a reputation for breaking stocks? Recoil seems minimal - much less than .30-06 and other common chamberings that those stocks are designed to handle.
     
  5. Varminterror

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    The recoil of the cartridge isn’t pertinent. The flexibility of the stock under various loads in changing support conditions is the issue. If you’re happy with 1moa from your Tupperware clad rifle, great for you. Not everyone is such.
     
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  6. Varminterror

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    @BobABQ - if you’re terribly concerned with stock strength, there are 3 common places stocks will fracture, and all 3 are quite simple to reinforce. Slap a crossbolt behind the recoil lug and through the trigger bridge, and insert a stiffening/reinforcing bolt down the wrist from the action inlet. Pillar block and glass bed the action, free float the barrel while you are at it, for good measure, and any breakage which might happen thereafter will solely be the fault of whatever dynamic and inappropriate action you might do to break it, not the recoil of the rifle itself.
     
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  7. wombat13

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    If the rifle can't shoot better than 1.5 moa it's not the "tupperware" stock. I'm assuming the poster meant 1.5" at 100 yards, but I could be wrong because he didn't specify.
     
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    @wombat13 - you offered that your .25-06 shoots 1moa to 200yrds with the Tupperware stock, as if that were evidence the OP shouldn’t change his stock. It’s quite evident that improving the stock over the factory polymer is easy improvement, especially when well installed in the manner I described above. And as I said, not all of us would be pleased with a rifle shooting as poorly as 1moa at 200yrds, so projecting your own standard onto the OP isn’t apt.
     
  9. kmw1954

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    1.5 MOA - 1.5" @100YDS, was of the understanding they are one and the same.
     
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    True I didn't specify, and for that I apologize. I was referring to a 100 yd. group. It has more to do with the pressures imparted by the shooter on the stock, and I could see and feel the flexing of the stock before the shot. Criticize my technique, form, grip, whatnot to your heart's content, but it didn't work for me so I changed it. Don't know yet if it worked. Probably won't really matter to any else but me anyway.
     
  11. wombat13

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    Please quote the part of my post that recommends that the poster not change the stock. I simply commented that it seems unlikely to me that the plastic stock is the cause of 1.5" groups at 100 yards.
     
  12. armedwalleye

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    I restocked a Savage 110 with a Boyd’s Laminate stock and couldn’t be happier. It’s the grey toned laminate, I believe it’s called “Pepper”. Literally a drop in.
     
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  13. kmw1954

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    Boyds srocks on Savages. Wanna see'm?

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  14. 3Crows

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    My Axis II in Coyote laminate from Boyds, perfect fit. I did do a pillar and action bed.

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  15. wiscoaster

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    I did the Coyote laminate too!! For my Mini-14:
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    Pretty flashy!!
    Actually, I ended up toning it down a bit. A bit much for my style.....;)
     
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  16. Condor

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    Savage 12 in Coyote laminate
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    Savage 11 in Pepper laminate
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  17. BobABQ

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    Thank you everyone for your answers. I had heard at the gun club I belong to that Savage has had issues with stock breakage. I was just trying to find out prior to buying a new stock for my Axis XP.

    Thank you again.
     
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  18. wiscoaster

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    Don't forget to post pics of your gun in its new stock!! :)
     
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    35 in pounds max torque,mine shoots best at 32 in lbs and its a 223.
     
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    My rule of thumb is check the torque on your stock bolts before disassembly,if your gun is shooting good. Match that torque on reassembly.
     
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  21. kmw1954

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    Sorry but who are you directing this response to? Just be clear or if this is an in general.
     
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    It was a general statement about stock replacement.The 35 in lbs is for Savage rifles recomended.
     
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  23. Condor

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    There is a slight weight difference with the laminate over the walnut, but with a classic stock style and a sporter weight barrel the added weight is not enough that it makes me feel like the rifle is heavy.
     
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  24. kmw1954

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    I have my Boyds At-One set to 30# on the front and just snug on the rear. Before that I tried 30# on both and it shot horrible, threw shots everywhere.
     
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