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A Rant In Progress.....

Discussion in 'Shotguns' started by Dave McCracken, Sep 13, 2008.

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  1. Dave McCracken

    Dave McCracken Moderator In Memoriam

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    Some things have been irking me, and maybe it's time to get these off my massive and manly chest.

    No, not the usual things like PGO shotguns,ChiCom clone guns or folks taking pics of new looking shotguns and posting them on what Oleg says is my turf.

    Well, no more than usual....

    Here's a couple things that have been yanking my chain of late. Maybe you can identify.

    First, and least, is folks who refer to their shotguns as "Shotties".

    I doubt Myashi called his swords the Medieval Japanese equivalent of Washi instead of Washikazi,Katie instead of Katana,etc.

    And while I've many friends with high dollar shotguns, I don't hear them referred to as Kreiggies, Parkies, ad nauseam.

    Not to get all mystical and spiritual on this, but I think respecting the tools is a step towards using them better.

    Of course, this doesn't mean we can't call our best shotgun a messed up piece of trash next time it misses, but you can get my meaning.

    Next, a couple secondhand stories have reached me about two incidents where a lout was teaching a loved one how to shoot, and handed them a magnum load. This, of course, knocked in one case a woman and in another a teen aged son silly. Both louts regarded this as great fun.

    If the perpetrators didn't want their loved ones to shoot, they could just have refused to take them.

    Idiots like this deserve flaying or impalement. Or made to labor eternally in Hades shooting trap with 5 lb 10 gauges with wood chisel butts.

    And finally, the latest thing that causeth my gorge to rise is folks who aren't going to vote this election, or who aren't going to make the Second Amendment the fulcrum on which their vote swings.

    We won Heller by one Justice. The next Prez will get to pick three Justices at least.

    The wrong vote or no vote can leave us bitterly clinging to our religions, because we sure as heck may not get to cling to our guns.

    [/rant].....
     
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  2. Rembrandt

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    The by-product of a society where language skills, spelling, and word craftsmanship have been relegated to abbreviation's, spell check, and one-to-two syllable words. We can only wonder what future generations will communicate with?
     
  3. Milkmaster

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    Well said Dave...

    Did you have a bad day at the trap range or meet someone who just pushed you over the edge? I seldom see you rant here. It is nice to know you are human and especially nice to see you aren't always "politically correct" :)


    I have been thiking about going ahead with my carry permit class before the election. My faith in my fellow voters is weak I guess. It makes my blood boil to see people voting for someone simply for color or charisma. I want to scream at them to at least look at what his/her positions are on a few basic points.


    Guess that is enough politics for now.
     
  4. rantingredneck

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    Amen Dave.

    Though I have at times used the words Remmy or Mossy.

    Shottie however is a particular peeve of mine as well.
     
  5. RaisedByWolves

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    I have been guilty of using the "Shotty" word, please accept my apologies for I am new at this sport.


    Is it still OK to Call my truck a Chevy?


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  6. Todd A

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    Your not alone. I don't like "shottie". Detest 3" magnum "funny tricks",and though I don't like political net talk I have always voted my guns.



    Ohhh..and through my 500A is "ninjafied" some of us do shoot them.:)

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  7. dogbob

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    Dear Dave, missed you at Chinese this week. If it makes you feel better I shot 11 or so.... Worst personal score ever!

    I'd love to rant about things but that would not change anything that I ranted about.

    I'm just glad to be alive and lucky to have so many wonderful people to be associated with.

    Can't wait to see you the next time at P.G. Trap & Skeet.

    I'll have some tomatoes with your name on them!


    Brian
     
  8. Jack R

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    Peeves

    Nailed It Again....dave, I Agree 100%
     
  9. MAX100

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    Good Post! Gave me a laugh.


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  10. Candiru

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    Well put.

    I must confess to slipping a .357 into a cylinder of .38 my brother was about to shoot, but he was hardly just starting. It just earned me a dirty look and, on the bright side, he now loads all his own magazines and cylinders.

    Also, it should be noted that "shottie" has the exact same number of syllables and letters as "shotgun," so efficiency is no excuse to use the former term in person or in print.

    Now if you'll excuse me, I have a revolvie to clean...
     
  11. Chuck Spears

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    So PGO shotguns aren't good for home defense?
     
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    Shotties is a minor irritation. I don't use the word and consider the people who do foolish.

    Those clowns who think it's funny if their wives unknowingly shoot a magnum round should be cautious their wives don't meet me. I will seduce them back to shotgunning with a 28 gauge and introduce them to fine guns. When they return home they will know what a lout they married and you will be showered with demands for expensive guns and ammunition. I've done it before and look forward to doing again. :)

    But those are minor concerns compared to not being politically active. It's not enough just to vote. Offer time, treasure and talent to the candidate and party of your choice. Consider it another form of Homeland Defence but in this case what you are defending is your preferred way of life and not having someone else impose theirs upon you.
     
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    I believe there was a post where someone said calling a shotgun a "shottie" or something stupid like that was a crime in the great state of SC. lol
     
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    mall ninjas, "tacticool", zombies
     
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    It's good to know that the dumbing down of America's kids and young adults is well underway. The first time I heard the term Shotty was from kids playing Halo 3. One of the scenarios in the game is called "Shotty Snipes". This obviously means shotguns and sniper rifles. It is rather irritating.

    On the flip side, I shot MY new shotgun today for the first time. :neener: This is also the first shotgun I've ever owned. WOW. I've heard stories about how much the 12ga kicks and I thought I was prepared for it, but it still caught me off guard. :what: Nothing I couldn't handle though. Of course, it will be more manageable once I replace the Factory forend and buttstock with an ATI forend pistol grip and pistol grip/buttstock combo. :D
     
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    Slow posting day??
     
  17. conw

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    That irks me to no end, too. There are tons of youtube clips with that kind of thing on there.

    Really makes me mad...
     
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    Dave,

    Thank you again for a excellent and much needed post.
    You and others around here, know my take on all this.


    Have hickory axe handle - will travel


    *thwack*
     
  19. Sunray

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    "...slipping a .357 into a cylinder of .38..." That is malicious. Not that it'd fit anyway, but you'd have earned a hard female dog slap for even thinking about it.
    "...instead of Katana..." I think they actually had names, much like early BP rifles. Crocket, I think, named his rifle, but I'll hold 'em if you want to hit 'em. Or hit 'em if you want to hold 'em. The use of The Queen's English gets abused far too often.
    "...ad nauseam..." It's ad nauseum, but I'll still hold 'em for ya'll.
     
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    sorry yall, been saying "shotty" as slang with friends for many years, an' I aint apt to stop any time soon.

    "Next, a couple secondhand stories have reached me about two incidents where a lout was teaching a loved one how to shoot, and handed them a magnum load. This, of course, knocked in one case a woman and in another a teen aged son silly. Both louts regarded this as great fun."

    this I do have a bit of a peeve about though........ really not a cool move


    "So PGO shotguns aren't good for home defense?"

    if your not into really really large pistols that are highly difficult to aim and kick like a mule with decent loadings even for us stout strong young fellers......then no
     
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    "Bullet" when used to describe a cartridge. "Bullet" casing instead of cartridge case.
     
  22. Grunt

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    "Shotty"...kind of like the shooting worlds "e-bonics" IMHO.
     
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    Moving into my middle years I find there are things to fight about, things to just grit your teeth about, and things that just make you go ..huh?. On this (wonderful?) internet we are dealing with different regions, customs, and dialects from all over the world ....not to mention the generational spread among the posters on any given thread.
    Personally one of my own civil disobedience measures is to refuse to use spell check or bother with correct grammar. I'm such a freakin' rebel.
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  24. DaleCooper51

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    "Shotty" does annoy me, but not as much as deagle, snapping a revolver cylinder shut with a flick of the wrist, or shooting gangster style at a 90 degree cant. Although annoying at least it is not harmful to the gun or potentially dangerous to those in the lane next to them at the range.

    Having been the butt of the high powered cartridge joke when I was younger, I find it in rather poor taste. I was shooting light loads from a 45-70 and the jacka** slipped a freight train hunting load in there without telling me. He and his buddies got one hell of a laugh out of it and I left bruised up and never shot with him again. Whenever I take a new person out shooting, I always start them off with a 22lr and wait for them to ask me about shooting something bigger and gradually move them up. Over the last few years, I have started a bunch of new shooters and not one of them has quit due to a bruised shoulder or ego from being the brunt of a joke.

    Everyone has different political opinions. I respect but not always agree with peoples point of view and have always maintained that no one has a right to complain if if they do not make the effort to vote.
     
  25. chas08

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    Good post, hope you feel better now. Don't worry... McCain/08.:)
     
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