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A term to replace "Assault Weapon" : "Modern Rifle"

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Golden Hound, May 11, 2013.

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  1. Golden Hound

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    The whole gun debate has been utterly poisoned by the use of the term "assault weapon". An invented, fictitious, and totally loaded term, which, as soon as it is used - either deliberately, by antis, or inadvertently by people who have just heard it repeated over and over and don't understand what it actually means - adds a further layer of misinformation to any discussion about firearms in the public.

    But, it occurred to me recently, what people mean when they say "assault weapon" is really just "MODERN RIFLE." What they mean is a rifle that is modern, that is built with modern conveniences and modern materials, for optimum effectiveness as a rifle. It's a modern rifle the same way that an iPhone is the standard modern mobile communications device and a Nikon D4 or Canon EOS is the standard digital SLR camera.

    The word "modern" goes over well with everybody. Nobody wants to NOT be modern. Modern means progress. And, most importantly, it replaces this whole sinister "assault" business, which only makes uninformed people think of something sinister and evil.

    I want to see a massive movement to change the terminology from "assault weapon" to "modern rifle" when referring to what is, in fact, a modern rifle with modern features such as pistol grips, detachable magazines with ideal capacities, and adjustable stocks, made out of "scary" black materials. Because that's what it is - a modern rifle.

    For decades, special-interest groups have been changing the "accepted" terms for things when they feel like it, whether that relates to gender, sexuality, race, or whatever. It's time for us, as a group, to step up and do the same thing. MODERN RIFLES, people. Never miss an opportunity to call them by their right name.
     
  2. shafter

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    What's the point? The people who understand the definition know its meaningless. The people who use it out of turn us it deliberately and aren't about to change to "modern rifle."
     
  3. monotonous_iterancy

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    I read somewhere that "assault weapon" was actually a term created by the gun industry to use in advertising. I don't think it's true, but can anyone clarify?
     
  4. M-Cameron

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    the term "assault rifle" was coined by Hitler to describe the Stg 44....

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StG_44#History
     
  5. monotonous_iterancy

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    I know that assault rifle has a specific source, but what about assault weapon? I read that it was originally an advertising term.
     
  6. M-Cameron

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    'assault weapon' is more than likely some derivative of 'assault rifle'.......i dont know that any one person/ industry/ ect. sat down and specifically came up with the term.
     
  7. JFrame

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    I thought "assault weapon" was a generic term conceived by Leftist antis to label categories of weapons that they could ban wholesale.

    I could be mistaken...


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  8. monotonous_iterancy

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    ^ Well, I think I read that from an anti-gun publication, which is why I doubt it's accuracy, but maybe it's right? I've never seen anyone actually source it as a media spin word either.
     
  9. OldBrownDog

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    "Assault weapons—just like armor-piercing bullets, machine guns, and plastic firearms—are a new topic. The weapons' menacing looks, coupled with the public's confusion over fully automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons—anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun—can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons. In addition, few people can envision a practical use for these weapons."
    -Josh Sugarmann, Assault Weapons and Accessories in America, 1988

    http://www.vpc.org/studies/awacont.htm

    Don't go looking around too much on that site. You'll get ill. I did. :barf::barf: But that's generally accepted as the place "assault weapon" came from.
     
  10. clutch

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    I like home defense rifle or modern sporting rifle. When the AWB was in effect and pocket pistols limited to 10 rounds started holding .40 and .45, wasn't it Josh Suggarman that was trying to coin the name, "Pocket Rocket"?

    Of course the 'saturday night special' is a description for an in-expensive firearm that a certain formerly enslaved minority ( or poor folks ) use to create havoc or defend themselves. First they went after the cheap guns, now the more expensive ones, they want to get rid of all of them.
     
  11. Rollis R. Karvellis

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    Oh boy it has only been a week. Don't worry I, know that Guns and Ammo was using the term assault rifle back in the late 70's, and early 80's.

    Now if you excuse me I'm going to go and wipe down my extreme hi capacity assault bolt action sniper weapon.

    Oh and one more thing, the ''modern designs'' stem from when my late father was a kid.
     
  12. Slamfire

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    Anti gunners will just demonize guns using whatever name you choose.

    It is not the name.
     
  13. MICHAEL T

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    it was used by others at that time period also . Gun Industry created it along with all this other tactical not really needed junk we see in adds. Do you really need a bayonet on a PF-9 KelTec.
     
  14. DeadMoneyDrew

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    How about just using the term "rifle?" Keep it simple.
     
  15. Salmoneye

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    So you're suggesting I stop using the correct term "Semi-Automatic"?

    :confused:
     
  16. Buckeye71

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    Armalite Rifle

    Why not call it what the AR was originally...the Armalite Rifle
     
  17. Huskerguy

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    Assault sounds worse to the antis out there. It is the opposite of using the word terrorist. The left is very good at how they use words to their benefit.
     
  18. barnbwt

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    So you're saying we should be calling them "terrorist rifles?" :scrutiny::D

    TCB
     
  19. frankenstein406

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    isn't it just a semi auto rifle?
     
  20. Bubba613

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    No point mollifying the bed-wetters. How about "ghetto-reaper"?
     
  21. rcmodel

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    It doesn't matter what you and I call them.

    Politicians and the liberal news media is still going to call them assault rifles, AK-47's, and military style machineguns.

    Never mind they aren't.

    It's all part of the plan.

    rc
     
  22. spanishjames

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    Do what the DHS did. Call it a "Personal Defense Weapon".
     
  23. buckeye8

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    Control of the language matters. Too many of you dismiss these discussions out-of-hand.

    "Modern Rifle" is pitch-perfect, and is exactly the sort of phrase we ought to be using.
     
  24. happygeek

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    Normally it's a scary looking black semi-auto rifle, but if it's scary enough looking it doesn't even have to be semi-auto.

    Notice on page 18 here: http://www.vpc.org/studies/militarization.pdf they call the Savage 110 BA an "assault rifle".

    savage110ba01.png

    The funny thing is the guy who heads the VPC, Josh Sugermann, is smarter than that. I'm guessing the interns put out that report while he was on vacation or something. Sugermann's been with the VPC for quite some time and holds a FFL at the address of their office in DC.
     
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    Sport Utility Rifle
     
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