Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by GeoDudeFlorida, May 11, 2021.
A non-reloader looks over at those who are still shooting thanks to being reloaders and thinks, I'll get into reloading. It's as simple as primer, powder and bullet, right?
As we all know, reloading is a side hobby all its own...it takes just as much time, attention, and honestly, even more attention to detail than shooting itself. It is silly easy to pop something if you get in a rush, or do not respect proper procedures/rules. Add that to the lack of supplies and you're asking for it. I cannot imagine how many first time reloaders are currently substituting powders or projectiles because of limited availability. We all know that is seriously dangerous if you do not know what you're doing. I consider myself a budding reloader and even after years and 1000's of rounds, I will not do that.
not my club, almost every staff members are reloaders.
Factories are cranking out ammo as fast as possible. I wonder if QC is keeping up
Typically they require that you buy factory ammunition from them to use on their indoor range or in their rental guns.
Just some of the reasons I don't use their indoor ranges. Cost is another.
Having memberships in two gun clubs is another.
Restrictions on how quickly you can fire rounds is another.
But to address the query at hand, no. I'm a private land shooter.
"You may bring your own eye protection, ear protection, and ammunition (No steel core, steel jacketed, incendiary, or tracer ammo allowed | no buckshot, birdshot or snake shot ammunition)"
No mention of handloads, but you do have to buy their ammo to shoot in their rental guns.
The next nearest, which I only visit for their indoor USPSA matches, says
"The use of hand-reloaded ammunition is prohibited. Members in good standing may apply for a waiver subject to qualification."
If they got huffy about that, they would lose nearly everybody who shoots that weekly match and lose a good bit of revenue.
This sounds more like a marketing ploy that safety rules.
Then there are reasonable restrictions about maximum caliber allowed and no armor piercing or steel core ammo allowed to prevent damage to the range building and bullet traps.
No mention about using reloads in your own gun.
I imagine after a few incidents resulting in injury, their insurance company may force them to restrict using reloads in order to retain insurance coverage.
The problem being, right now they don't have enough ammo on-hand to make money turning people away. I suspect an insurance company or tort lawyer is really behind the new policy.
That's been a rule for a while and I think it's pretty reasonable. I wouldn't expect anybody to let me shoot my handloads in their guns and I don't shoot other people's handloads in mine.
But probably not as much as one lawsuit. Even if they won the civil case in court, the lawyer's bill would bankrupt them. We don't have a "loser pays" law in Florida.
The insurance carrier bears no onus for unenforceable rules. They just want to be able to come in after the fact and go "coverage denied." The Range's only option is to pay more for insurance (if any such is actually available), or really pay through the nose for "underwriter" insurance.
Most of these rules were probably already in place, but not as much noticed until the present "pinch."
But these are private ranges not open to the public
Been that way for years.
The insurance and liability of a gun range is incredible.
Indoor ranges are not for me for many reasons
I recall the NRA HQ range where I mostly shoot had reloading classes prepandemic. Oh yeah and they also sell used brass.
There are only two other ranges within 35 miles and I believe they too permit handloads.
i have a few "factory" boxes of ammo laying around for use at the local range that requires factory ammo. However I generally just avoid that indoor range because you aren't supposed to use reloads. Not allowing reloads seems like a bad business idea since reloaders are typically the people who visit the range the most.
Yeah mine too but when I scurry around picking up my brass it’s a sure giveaway.
That's been the rule at every indoor range that rents guns
I agree about private ranges making their own rules. I'm not chuffed about the rule - their range, their property, I don't have to go there - I'm just really shocked at the spike in accidents involving handloads. This family has owned the indoor range for almost a decade (maybe over?? time flies!) with no mention of problems with handloads. Now it's a big enough problem to ban them. And, it was mentioned some bystander got "hurt" - but nothing specific. These are good people so I trust their judgement. I'm just shocked people can be so irresponsible with ammunition and not know when they have a squib or stuck bullet. Did they not notice there wasn't a new hole in the target?
That's one thing that makes me the most paranoid, I check all my cases at least 3 times for powder during reloading. Once as it is poured in the case, once all are filled and in the tray and once right before the bullet gets seated.
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