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A very serious "no guns allowed" bank sign

Discussion in 'Legal' started by SunnySlopes, May 24, 2012.

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  1. SunnySlopes

    SunnySlopes Member

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    This guy saw the sign. In addition to "no guns" it also said the bank was protected by a "weapons control system." The guy stowed his firearm in his car but left a loaded mag on his belt. The alarms went off, he got locked in the entry, and had to wait for the police to show.

    Spooky.

    http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/320601935/m/9340096982
     
  2. R.W.Dale

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    Great! So the cops are now gonna respond to everyone who enters the bank wearing steel toed shoes.

    I forsee these as a passing fad once local law enforcement starts charging for responding to the false alarms
     
  3. del4

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    I was reading the whole thread . I am interested to see how this works out.

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  4. walker944

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    I bank with Wells Fargo, and not long after getting my CHL I was going into the bank one day and took note that there were no signs telling me that I couldn't carry into the bank. Being a newby to concealed carry, and being ultra nervous about carrying were prohibited, I would have bet the farm that the bank would be prohibited.....well, not the case at all. Wells Fargo has no prohibitions agains lawful gun carriers! That's nice to know!
     
  5. Warp

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    Do you know of false alarms due to shoes happening at a location like this?

    Any links or references?

    I ask because I have real life experience with a metal detector meant to detect firearms and the like and I don't recall it going off for steel toe shoes, or even full size pocket knives, but it sure did go off for guns. You might be surprised how finely tuned a metal detector can be.
     
  6. NavyLCDR

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    I would suggest that anyone "trapped" in such a device could sue the bank for false arrest. They are depriving a person of liberty with no indication that a crime is being committed.
     
  7. mgregg85

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    So this seems to be the way it plays out...

    Alarm goes off
    Employee comes and checks customer for IWB carry
    Assuming customer passes that check they are allowed in, otherwise the cops are called

    So what happens if the bad guy is pocket or ankle carrying? I can fit my glock 29 in some of the bigger pockets of my cargo pants.

    What happens if there is a customer walking out at the same time a customer is coming in? Or what if the bad guys have a unarmed accomplice go first and hold the door?

    Seems like a good way to catch a dumb robber but otherwise it would be easy to defeat.
     
  8. RBid

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    Popped in to 'second' the Wells Fargo sentiment. I go to two branches, on a pretty regular basis. I carry all the time, and have no issues there. Great service where I'm from, as well!
     
  9. nofishbob

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    The one the OP referenced went off because of a magazine, so I am not sure how well it can discriminate between various metal objects....could it be dependent on the object's height above the floor?

    I also wonder about the fire safety aspect of trapping everyone in a building.

    Bob
     
  10. robmkivseries70

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    Hmm, I wonder if it would detect an ankle rig?:evil: Bet, Rob
     
  11. Warp

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    The magazine part is concerning.

    If there were one near me I'd love to try out various metal objects.
     
  12. smalls

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    What state did this happen in? I imagine that if it was a state where the signs mean nothing, the bank is going to get sued real quick.

    Shaky ground even for states that signs do carry the weight of law.
     
  13. ball3006

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    Sounds like a good time to switch banks.....................chris3
     
  14. Warp

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    The poster's location on that board is listed as Indiana. Signs do NOT carry weight of law in Indiana, and banks are perfectly legal for carry (as is almost every other location).
     
  15. smalls

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    I'd definitely sue them into the ground, either way. Right after I broke out of their box.
     
  16. fireman 9731

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    Yep, time to change banks and let them know why. Then I would call a lawyer.

    Thankfully in the free state of Kentucky I can, and do carry in my bank....
     
  17. MyGreenGuns

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    I usually carry, but there are places and times I'll leave it behind. When I am banking I am taking money into or out of a bank, I refuse to be unarmed while I do this.

    I cannot say I would not do the same. It would be fun to figure out some false triggers.

    As for the fire problem: This is the Main door, but not the only door. Fire codes require multiple exits in a place of business. However, those doors will most likely be one-way or keyed entry.
     
  18. R.W.Dale

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    I set every metal detector I go through off with steel toed work boots including ours at the courthouse that was installed post "active shooter" incident.

    If a magazine sets it off work boots will too.
     
  19. Warp

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    If the poster's location is as listed on his profile, his state is plenty free, and carry in his bank is, with a LTCH, perfectly legal.

    But yes, definitely time to bail on that bank.
     
  20. TRX

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    I set them off too - airports, state and federal buildings, some businesses. $20,000 worth of orthopedic steel rods replacing bits of the bones in my left leg do that.
     
  21. Panzercat

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    So in other words... A metal detector, right? :rolleyes:

    But seriously, what do they do for implants? Hips, knees, etc? Guessing they break out the "hand held weapon location device" aka the hand wand. Anybody sue them yet for screwing with their customers pacemakers every time they pass through the thing?
     
  22. Scimmia

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    The guy was detained for doing something that wasn't illegal. There's no law against carrying in a bank in Indiana and signs don't carry force of law. This is a pretty clear cut case of false imprisonment. I really hope this guy follows through.
     
  23. Rail Driver

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    I'm half tempted to find one of those banks on my way up to visit Detroit next time and catch myself a settlement when I get locked in their small, enclosed space and my claustrophobia sends me into anxiety attacks resulting in injury to myself and emotional trauma my kids would suffer by seeing their father having conniptions on the ground.

    Not only is it illegal to detain someone for doing something completely legal in the first place, it's cruel to many people with certain phobias and disorders, not to mention the havoc those machines cause on some medical implant devices such as pacemakers and artificial organs.
     
  24. WardenWolf

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    Those devices are illegal on face value. They cannot prevent you from leaving without having proof of a crime.
     
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    Last time I flew my key (single) tripped the airport detector.
     
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