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A whole bunch of gun confiscation NOLA video's

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  1. gunsmith

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    Scariest Thing I have ever seen.
     
  3. Hoppy590

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    so i heard about this when it happened and read a little about it in American Rifleman. but has anything more become of it, id hope the NRA or some one is organizing a massive class action law suit. and not just for money, to make sure these kinds of things never happen again. also did anyone resist the police?
     
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    lawful order?

    I can't help but think of the number of police officers here, who stated, "Hell no! I would never do that!", on another thread.

    When I watch that video, I wonder how many would follow the order to disarm law abiding citizens. How many of you officers would resign your position instead of following that order? How many of you would attempt to discourage your peers from following that order?

    A simple indicator might be the following questions:

    How many ATF agents resigned from that agency after the truth started coming out about Waco?
    How many FBI agents resigned from that agency after 80 people were killed in that "law enforcement" action?

    Hmmmmm? Anyone?
     
  5. xcheck

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    This is just one of a numbe rof seizure related vidoes. Many more were and still possibly are up on the NRA/ILA website as well as SAF's site.

    This does not even cover the Patricia Konie incident which both of those sites had up and may still.
     
  6. Ira Aten

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    "id hope the NRA or some one is organizing a massive class action law suit. and not just for money, to make sure these kinds of things never happen again. also did anyone resist the police?"


    Update: The NRA indeed has received a judgement that N.O. police must give back the guns to their owners, and that the confiscation was not legal.
    However, N.O. police and Nagin chose to simply disobey the Judges order thus far.

    NRA is pushing legislatioon in States to outlaw the confiscation of guns (even though the 2nd amendment already makes it illegal anyway) but in consideration of the fact that NY City Mayor Bloomberg, and a bunch of other anti self defense Mayors like him are plotting meetings to outlaw guns in their cities in defiance of American will LaPierre and the NRA have decided to begin circulating a "pledge" document (in addition to their litigation against New Orleans City police department and their lobbying of State officials to outlaw illegal gun grabs) to see if Mayors of cities will sign a pledge to never order the confiscation of weapons.

    Since the Mayors all did swear oaths not to violate the constitution when they entered office, it should be a simple matter.

    So the NRA is doing their part as much as they can in consideration of the fact that Mayors in the United States do not believe the law applies to them, it would sure be good if groups of gun owners within each city, took those pledge documents to city council meetings and also to commissioners court hearings to ask in public, that their mayors, council members, police chiefs, and local sherrifs sign pledges to not confiscate weapons from peaceable Americans.
    Also, it wouldn't hurt if the District Attorneys of each county are approched with some type of pledge that would be filed in County Records stating they will prosecute LEO's that follow orders to pull that type of gun grabs or confiscations that New Orleans pulled, and to also pledge not to prosecute peacable Americans in their counties, that defend themselves against illegal gun confiscations from LEO's given unconstitutional orders to steal their methods of self defense by the point of a gun.

    It is truly the minimum to ask of your Mayor, Sherrif, Police Chief, or District Attorney who are all elected officials. In fact, now that I think of it, I believe I will spearhead an effort in my county to get this done.
     
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    It still makes me shake my head.

    I'll not say what I wanted to; it's not terribly High Road. But I am having difficulty drawing much distinction between the black-clothed tacticool yahoos shown in the first video and any other form of home invasion goblin.
     
  8. DoubleTapDrew

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    There is absolutely nothing that can justify taking away people's guns when they need them most. Didn't look like there were badges on most of those guys either. Going around in cammies with an AR shouting "POLICE" I bet you could score a lot of weapons.
    The most sickening part is the idiots re-elected smash-n-grab nagin. Have fun in your defenseless chocolate city. Sorry about the pro-RKBA people that have to live there.
    If there is another big hurricane this year will things turn out the same (with respect to people giving up their weapons peacefully)?
     
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    I know I woudnt, I was in Laplace when it opened up and thing were crazy there, but no shooting, and that was 20 min from NO:what: I turned 21 on that day and I was carying my glock OWB. In a situation like that screw the permit muchless giving up my guns :fire: :fire: :fire: :fire: :fire:
     
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    I predict worse.

    Looting crowds will be larger.

    Precedent has been set. No consequences.
     
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    My dream is the NYT, Wash Times etc and ABCNBCBACNNFOX MSNBC will have this story with the video talking about the abuse of constitutional rights. Oh and even NPR would be angry. How about a bid press conference with Charles Shumer etc. screaming about this. That is my dream.. IF we had the media on our side we would not be having these problems now. Oh heck lets throw in the lefty ACLU. Nah will never happen. As a matter of fact I thinkt the NYT and Wash POST and NPR have already whinned about the NRA saying guns were confiscated and laughing at their idea of getting laws passed to prohibit such action.:cuss:
     
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    OK, people- get this straight- those guys WILL round up US citizens and put them in the cattle cars. You heard what they said-" I don't like to do this" " this is surreal" "I'd rather be in Iraq" and they DID it anyway.
    This is EXACTLY the words used by reserve police unit 101. They really found it uncomfortable to round up little girls, grandmothers and grown men and blow thier brains out from 10 feet away. BUT THEY DID IT.
    The essence of the military and police is to follow orders. Interestingly, the members of police reserve unit 101 were also used to following orders- mostly a bunch of working class Hienrich's who drove trucks, ran tools, etc. They did just what they were told to do. Like it? No. Do it, yes.
    If you do not know about reserve police unit(Battalion?) I suggest a search, and a read of the book. This is possibly the most chilling story I have ever read. There is no psychopathic torture murderer who can hold a candle to the ordinary joe'swho went to Poland to kill Jews. Truly a unique story. For obvious reasons, most of the accounts of the murder of the Jews were written by the intended victims.
    I am quite convinced American troops and police would do this if ordered. Yes, they would bitch. Yes, some would request alternate assignments. Yes, most would puke after every "operation". And finally, Yes, most would follow orders and do it.
     
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    I'm just dumbfounded at the fact that they went door to door in attack mode using automatic weapons to supposedly "help" people evacuate. That's just outrages! In fact, I find the Police and Soldiers actions insinuate they felt the locals where a threat to them, rather than the Soldiers and Police looking out for them.
     
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    I don't think anyone in the West would knowingly send innocents to their deaths, today. However, if you look at the origin of the concentration camp, you'd see that death is simply the result to be expected. The Brits said they were doing a favour, rounding up Boer women and children, for their own good. Too bad they all got sick and starved and died.

    ...After all, you can't trust them not to drink the dirty water. So they have to be put in camps. It's just common sense.
     
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    The reason was almost certainly that the media published many wild rumours, completely overblew the situation and caused a lot of official overreaction.

    Almost every 'social breakdown' story was false - the shooting at helicopters, the superdome rapes, the murders.
     
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    No matter if that stuff was true, or false. That would give even more reason for people to protect themselves.
     
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    I'm sorry. I will defend the constution and its ammendments. Hurricane or not. If you enter my house, intent on violating my constutitional rights, you will be leaving horizontal. :(

    I swore that I would support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic

    If any of those tacti-cool mall ninjas tried that stuff in property they would have two options. Stand down, or perish.


    To me, it's worth dying for. I would rather die fighting then live in oppression.
     
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    "they took their guns, but let them stay"

    that quote really got me, the cops took the tools they used to protect themselves...just evil!
     
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    That clip made me want to cry. There should be absolute outrage over such a thing! For any government agency to warrentlessly (is that even a word?) enter anyone's home, take property with out court order, and detain a citizen treating them like a criminal is an egregious violation of Civil Rights! This was nothing more than a despicable gun grab. I'm sure Sara Brady and her ilk danced with joy when the heard about this. This is truly a sad day.
     
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    You all whine...but who will you be voting for come election day? If you say Democrats or Republicans, then you deserve what that video proves is coming to you.

    Chosing Tyrant A or Tyrant B is no choice at all.
     
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    Exactly! "We're here to help! We aren't going to evactuate you but we ARE going to take away your only means for defense. Have a good day. BTW you won't be getting these back."
    I'm registered as a republican but my views are closer to the libertarian party. I'd like to vote for one for prez but even if half of the republicans realized they were actually libertarians we'd have a 25% libertarian, 25% republican, 50% democrat vote count. It sucks!
     
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    save them!!

    I can't seem to do it, but someone with the ability to save those videos should definitely do so!

    i have a feeling that these images will go the way of that famous tank-with-a-flaming-muzzle. Nope, never happened...

    Just my cheap advice.
    C-
     
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    The best medicine is experience. The american people know what to expect and I hope they will respond accordingly next time this is attempted.
     
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    hey "tokugawa" and "ready4shtf", great posts !!!! you guys can be on my paintball team any time !!!!
    but seriously, this shook me up as much as the rest of you.seriously,we're in deep sh*t, i've known since an early age it was coming, but all of a sudden .........i'm truly at a loss for words.
    it's really gonna happen,isn't it ?
     
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    It occurs to me that those most vocal defenders of law enforcement should attempt to defend this...
     
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